Our waters ....No fishing !

[gasbanni]

First a little joy ......

Now why they can take their hook!!!!!


https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_oct_brexit_initiative_factsheet_9

 

[Notch7]

last gasp of the brexiteers

 

[IT Minion]

I thought the decline of the UK fleet numbers were economic. Larger newer boats are more cost effective than dinky little ones. Those boats are never coming back.

 

[Notch7]

I thought the decline of the UK fleet numbers were economic. Larger newer boats are more cost effective than dinky little ones. Those boats are never coming back.

Most of the problem was that UK govt and UK businesses flogged 80% of the quotas.

But lets blame the EU.

 

[EddieM]

Most of the problem was that UK govt and UK businesses flogged 80% of the quotas.

But lets blame the EU.

That's true and fair enough, but the question is if they are such a small part of an economy, why the insistence that fishing rights in UK waters are so important in the EU negotiations? Genuine question.

 

[SirGalahad]

That's true and fair enough, but the question is if they are such a small part of an economy, why the insistence that fishing rights in UK waters are so important in the EU negotiations? Genuine question.

Are they important?

Fishing Industry is 0.1% of the economy If I recall correctly. Its a rounding error.

 

[Tigercubrider]

80% of uk caught fish is sold to the EU.
if we don't play fair, why should they continue to buy our fish?

 

[IT Minion]

Are they important?

Fishing Industry is 0.1% of the economy If I recall correctly. Its a rounding error.

We imported aroun £3.7 billion of Fish in 2017 according to that pamphlet.

Last year we spent > £4 billion on coffee.

 

[Notch7]

That's true and fair enough, but the question is if they are such a small part of an economy, why the insistence that fishing rights in UK waters are so important in the EU negotiations? Genuine question.

the UK chose to leave, why should the EU give anything up.

The EU are putting fishing first because they are setting the sequencing. They know fishing is politically charged in the UK, so they want an agreement before moving on.

Whichever way this gets played, it all comes back to one thing: no deal will be more damaging to the UK.

 

[EddieM]

Well I'd imagine if you'd given the fishing rights away (sorry, sold them off) then it would by default be a small percentage of your economy.

 

[Brigadier]

the UK chose to leave, why should the EU give anything up.

If your missus chooses to leave, should you give up your "conjugal rights"?

 

[motorbiking]

the UK chose to leave, why should the EU give anything up.

Because it respects international rules on the definition of territorial waters?

 

[Notch7]

If your missus chooses to leave, should you give up your "conjugal rights"?

48% of all UK exports go to EU

Unless EU get access to fishing, there wont be any trade deal.
Negotiations are determined by reciprocity

 

[EddieM]

the UK chose to leave, why should the EU give anything up.

The EU are putting fishing first because they are setting the sequencing. They know fishing is politically charged in the UK, so they want an agreement before moving on.

Whichever way this gets played, it all comes back to one thing: no deal will be more damaging to the UK.

Rightly or wrongly I don't see how the EU are setting the sequencing, no significant progress by June... walk away, no deal by December walk away, both UK govt mandated times, doesn't really smack of the EU sequencing things.

 

[motorbiking]

Negotiations are determined by reciprocity

Actually that's a common error and a trap many make. There are no rules, there is no need for give and take. Its all about need.

If I start and 10 and you start at 5, we don't have to meet in the middle.