PIR night lights hard-wired or 5 amp round pin plug in

[sparkwright]

Anyone know of any PIR activated night lights that don't require a 13 amp socket?

I have been asked to fit night lights at the bottom and top of a staircase.

Now PIR night lights are available to fit standard 13 amp sockets.

However, at this particular job it would easier to run feeds off the lighting circuit.

I was hoping such a night light exists that fits onto a regular single recessed back box.

The nearest products I can find all look rather Chinese...

I don't fancy fitting 13 amp sockets off the lighting cirrcuits. Although I could perhaps label them up as 'lighting only' it really doesn't seem satisfactory, and I know they will be used to plug other things into.

Fitting 2 or 5 amp sockets would be good, but I don't think they do a night light to fit these sockets.

I don't think you can get an adapter that is a 5 amp plug with a 13 amp socket. Think you could years ago, but probably considered very wrong nowadays.

I'm wondering now about getting a night light with a 2 pin European plug on it, and fitting a 2 pin European socket on the lighting circuit.

Not too familar with the European stuff, anyone any ideas?

 

[sparkwright]

Another school of thought - an MK bedroom shaver socket.

The arrangement of the holes looks like it accepts both European 2 pin plugs and standard UK shaver plugs.

The holes in the socket look elongated to accept both of these types (and also those 'flat' 2 pin plugs...

 

[ban-all-sheds]

anyone any ideas?

What's wrong with switches instead of PIRs?

 

[sparkwright]

anyone any ideas?

What's wrong with switches instead of PIRs?

It's what I've been asked for.

Apparently the bloke keeps going downstairs for a glass of water around 4am in the morning, and doesn't want to mess about with switches.

 

[Iggifer]

I've been looking for pretty much the exact same thing for a while.

The only real difference being I already have a couple of 25mm backboxes fed from the lighting circuit to utilise.

For the time being I've just put an FCU and 13A socket on there, with a standard plug in nightlight.


If you can put the PIR in the ceiling/somewhere else. A few companies do make standard wall lights that fit to a standard (Albeit) deep back box

 

[deadshort]

Hi, I have installed 13a plugin pir night lights as you describe on a staircase. I used an un-switched 13a socket fed from the lighting circuit and to save any hassle I super glued it into the socket. The units I bought did not cover the socket fixing screws, so easy to remove if required.

Regards,

DS

 

[ban-all-sheds]

doesn't want to mess about with switches.

Ah - so no good reason, then.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Apparently the bloke keeps going downstairs for a glass of water around 4am in the morning, and doesn't want to mess about with switches.

Alternatively you could install one of these in his bedroom

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Or he could wear one of these and get his wife to top him up in the night.

 

[deadshort]

Juliet Bravo !!!!!!!!

DS

 

[sparkwright]

Well, I checked today that a euro plug would fit a bedroom shaver socket, so a European night light may be the answer.

Trouble is, those plugs never seem to stay in the socket very securely, so I'm a bit reluctant to use them, as they are to be permanently plugged in.

I had considered the superglue idea myself, but I don't think I've got the nerve to do that!!

I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and install 13 amp sockets from the socket circuit...

 

[deadshort]

Use silicon then

Regards,

DS

 

[Iggifer]

And a few spare stickers from a way label kit that says 'lighting'

I personally like the little hager pictures, you can fit them in the middle of the 3 pins, and then it's not gonna get worn away, and when someone removes the nightlight they see it.

I know it's not permanent, but it's trying to make the best of a bad situation.

I'm amazed nobody makes these things to hardwire. 2nd post in 2 weeks....

Let's get designing!

 

[flameport]

Flush ceiling PIR with a 1W LED downlight next to it, positioned at the top of the stairs ?

 

[JohnW2]

I'm amazed nobody makes these things to hardwire. 2nd post in 2 weeks.... Let's get designing!

Do I take it that 'bulkhead PIR lights' are not aesthetically acceptable and/or too large - some aren't totally ugly ...

As for "Let's get designing", conceptually speaking all you really need to do is 'saw off' the 'plug pins' from a plug-in one and attach it to a blank plate. No point in re-designing the whole of the rest of it!

Kind Regards, John