please dont cry foul when you lose an argument

[petewood]

I would like to add that I would not put my country first. My family would always come first.

Also, if a foreigner or a muslim in this country was being victimised by what you call UK nationals, my instinct would be to defend the foreigner or the muslim.

This would seem to mean, according to your logic, that I am not a UK national even though I was born here, spent most of my life here and am proud to live here.

The question is, should I send my passport back and tell them I am an imposter?

 

[Thermo]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

 

[Slogger]

so soldiers in the british army/navy/air force, who are muslim and who have sworn an oath of allegance to the queen and are willing to die for their country...what does that make them? Muslim police officers who have sworn an oath to the queen and country, what does that make them, by YOUR definition.

By the way slogger since you spout so much about queen and country what exactly have YOU done for queen and country?

it makes them a security risk or dont you think so


as we all know to me islamic means putting your religion first

just waiting to stab us in the back

better to be safe than sorry sack the lot of them and stop any more being recruited into any position of power and i mean ANY

 

[Freddie]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

Oh it was seriously talked about in what was then India before the war and the muslims would have had to fight in the British forces as Pakistan didnt excist then it was one of the many Indian type states

 

[Thermo]

slogger are you unable to answer the first simple question for fear of proving yourself wrong?

Are you unable to answer the second simple question for fear of showing yourself to be what you truely are.

I had little respect for you from the start with all your disgraceful rantings but to demean the memory of those that laid down their life for you is about as low as you area able to go. You belong in the gutter

 

[kendor]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

Oh it was seriously talked about in what was then India before the war and the muslims would have had to fight in the British forces as Pakistan didnt excist then it was one of the many Indian type states

are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?<-question mark

 

[Slogger]

slogger are you unable to answer the first simple question for fear of proving yourself wrong?

Are you unable to answer the second simple question for fear of showing yourself to be what you truely are.

I had little respect for you from the start with all your disgraceful rantings but to demean the memory of those that laid down their life for you is about as low as you area able to go. You belong in the gutter

why try to twist my words ? you had my answers m8 and i would never bemean the loss of anyone that fought for our country

where have i ever said anything against anyone that served the allied forces you word twister you now about the respect thing i care nothing what you think of me i care about my country

wtf is the bit about me belonging in the gutter ? getting personal again stop that ok cant you argue your points without resorting to personal attacks

 

[Freddie]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

Oh it was seriously talked about in what was then India before the war and the muslims would have had to fight in the British forces as Pakistan didnt excist then it was one of the many Indian type states

are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?<-question mark

Read my previous post Kendor

 

[kendor]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

Oh it was seriously talked about in what was then India before the war and the muslims would have had to fight in the British forces as Pakistan didnt excist then it was one of the many Indian type states

are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?<-question mark

Read my previous post Kendor

Yep re-read your previous post but it doesn't answer my question "are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?"

 

[oilman]

........... now about the respect thing i care nothing what you think of me i care about my country.

Then WHAT is your country? Is it a plot of land, or does it include the people who live in it?

 

[Slogger]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

Oh it was seriously talked about in what was then India before the war and the muslims would have had to fight in the British forces as Pakistan didnt excist then it was one of the many Indian type states

are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?<-question mark

Read my previous post Kendor

Yep re-read your previous post but it doesn't answer my question "are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?"

could it have been they choose the lesser evil of serivng in the allied forces rather than the axis i for one think INDIA showed loyalty to the allies out of respect for what we stood for then bless every one of them that done that and payed the ultimate price as we will all remember those that sacrificed there lives so we can live the way we do today

lets get back to those standards and drop the political correctness

 

[kendor]

So they did contribute to this country then!

 

[AdamW]

Themo, thanks for sharing that photograph with us.

I am yet to see a British and Commonwealth military grave yet that doesn't have Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs all represented by those who fell fighting for this country, for our freedom.

Slogger, you have an obvious respect for India. Do you, like the majority of Brits, love Indian food?

 

[Slogger]

Themo, thanks for sharing that photograph with us.

I am yet to see a British and Commonwealth military grave yet that doesn't have Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs all represented by those who fell fighting for this country, for our freedom.

Slogger, you have an obvious respect for India. Do you, like the majority of Brits, love Indian food?

sure i like indian food i am liking most foods but where is this leading to as for obvious respect for india ? i have respect for any nation or anyone that respects my country so cudos all over i guess


peace would be a really nice thing i said it once ages ago that if all mankind was one colour and no religion we would be going to war about who had the most land etc we are doomed to not be at peace me thinks so lets make sure we cover our backs

 

[Freddie]

freddie, well it was so rare, that there were 21000 in the second world war, serving in the navy, and over 14000 that were treated for injuries in hospitals in the south east during the first world war.

the point is they did not know of any offers of independence when they signed up they did it for the queen and the motherland, which you could argue is an even gretaer show of loyalty, the same as those serving now are doing it for queen and country, which rather stuffs sloggers crass argument.

Oh it was seriously talked about in what was then India before the war and the muslims would have had to fight in the British forces as Pakistan didnt excist then it was one of the many Indian type states

are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?<-question mark

Read my previous post Kendor

Yep re-read your previous post but it doesn't answer my question "are you suggesting they were called up and not voluntary?"

I am not suggesting anything as i havent ventured in that area as i have no knowlege of that procedure in what were the colonies.

For WW2 i shouldnt imagine that there was conscription there from Britain but i am damn sure that the people in charge would have made it clear as to what would have happened if the Germans or Japs came, i should think they read about in the newspapers as what the Japs did to Singapore etc.

In WW1 i doubt if they were conscripted even though it was introduced after 1916 in Britain