Plumbers. Bless them.

[doitall]

Ok slight twist.

What would you do if you had to change an MV in the cupboard and there's a G&Y back to the room stat the other side of the house, thats oversleeved.

Actual not make belief please.

 

[Scoby_Beasley]

Neither is a boiler with a plug on the end.

Class II portable boiler?

Kind Regards, John

That'll be a kettle then!!

 

[doitall]

But that is personnal choice, has you 240v drills got an earth.

Would that be "But that is personal choice?" and "has your drill got...?" A mis-spelt word can bring in a whole new draft of suppositions!!

Can always tell when your loosing an discussion concentrate on the spelling lads.

 

[Monkeh]

Neither is a boiler with a plug on the end.

Class II portable boiler?

Kind Regards, John

That'll be a kettle then!!

Nope, they're earthed!

 

[EFLImpudence]

What would you do if you had to change an MV in the cupboard and there's a G&Y back to the room stat the other side of the house, thats oversleeved.

At least connect a cpc from the MV to somewhere with an earth.
Tell customer it was fitted by a complete idiot and, for safety, must be rewired.

Actual not make belief please.

You sure? If so it's even worse than we thought.

Why do your MVs not come with a 5 core inc. g/y like mine do?
Why is the thermostat connected to the MV?
Why is the wiring centre not nearby? Is it in the living room?



There have been plenty of other occasions for comments on spelling.

 

[doitall]

Why do your MVs not come with a 5 core inc. g/y like mine do?
Why is the thermostat connected to the MV?
Why is the wiring centre not nearby? Is it in the living room?

There have been plenty of other occasions for comments on spelling.

MV does have a G&Y.

The sw/l from the room stat is connected to the MV.

Wiring center is usually in the cupboard.

The room stat is for practical purpose somewhere else.

So the question remains.

Would you rewire the S/L from the stat even if it was going to take several hours and the custard said no way, or would you walk or as I suspect just change it and take the money.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Alright I'll be patient but your not being consistent.

MV does have a G&Y.

So the valve cpc is connected. Yes? To what?

The sw/l from the room stat is connected to the MV.

How? Why? Where are all the other valve wires connected?

Wiring center is usually in the cupboard.

But not this time???
So how do the valve's other wires reach?

The room stat is for practical purpose somewhere else.

Obviously.

So the question remains.

Would you rewire the S/L from the stat even if it was going to take several hours and the custard said no way, or would you walk or as I suspect just change it and take the money.

Change the thermostat for one which does not need a neutral.
Where are its L & N connected?

Obviously someone has replaced the original (without neutral) for one requiring a neutral and 'pinched' the cpc.

It might even have been the customer's husband so will give her a good reason to have a moan.

 

[doitall]

Nope the room stat was fitted from new just like 1000000s of houses .

Cable from the room stat goes somewhere and ends up in the cupboard wiring center.

Blue in the neutral, red in T4 going to the programmer.

G&Y oversleeved and connected to the white.

Standard Y plan.

 

[JohnW2]

Change the thermostat for one which does not need a neutral.

That, of course, is the best (and probably the only 'proper') answer IF one 'cannot', cannot be bothered to, or is not allowed (by customer) to, replace the cable with a 4-core one.

Kind Regards, John

 

[doitall]

Here you go, the switch live from 3 in the room stat to 5 in the wiring center have been oversleeved, lets say an assumed road is through 3 bedrooms and chased in a wall somewhere but ends up in the cupboard, the other end is in the hall.

Will you change the actuator on the MV or not.

Y Plan

• doitall
• 15 May 2012
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[JohnW2]

... just like 1000000s of houses . Blue in the neutral, red in T4 going to the programmer. G&Y oversleeved and connected to the white.

You have a source of 3-core cable with blue, red and G/Y cores? ... or am I misunderstanding you?

Kind Regards, John

 

[doitall]

irrelevant, will you change the actuator or try and generate extra loot.

The cable you can see is 3core flex, however it may go into another connection box with 3 core and earth.

 

[JohnW2]

Here you go, the switch live from 3 in the room stat to 5 in the wiring center have been oversleeved, lets say an assumed road is through 3 bedrooms and chased in a wall somewhere but ends up in the cupboard, the other end is in the hall. Will you change the actuator on the MV or not.

Why not? The cable to the MV is correct, with a G/Y-identified CPC, so what's the problem? It's if I were asked to change the room stat that I would see a problem. However, if I changed the MV I would probably bring the problem with the room stat wiring (absence of CPC, not the oversleeving) to the customer's attention.

Kind Regards, John

 

[doitall]

So the only time you'd be really worried is if you changed the stat, keeping in mind you could easily come across this scenario half a dozen times a day, if you did this type of work frequently.

 

[JohnW2]

So the only time you'd be really worried is if you changed the stat, keeping in mind you could easily come across this scenario half a dozen times a day, if you did this type of work frequently.

That's what I said, but others may feel/say differently.

Consider an analogy with cars. If I took my car to a garage with a request for something specific to be done to the braking system (e.g. 'change the pads'), I imagine that the mechanic would be concerned if (s)he saw something else 'unacceptable' about the braking system - and would presumably tell me, and might even decline to do the job I'd asked for without also rectifying the other problem. However, I wouldn't expect them to refuse to do the brakes job because they noticed a problem with the steering or exhaust systems.

Kind Regards, John