Why not?
Plumbers. Bless them.
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Because it's "against the regulations", I guess - just like fixed wiring cables (other than pendants) without CPCs!
Kind Regards, John
Because it'll melt during a fire. Copper won't.
How often do you have a fire? I've never had one, and I neither has anyone in my extended family. Does solder not melt on copper pipework in a fire?
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50mm copper mains water pipe.
Fire at the goat and boots in London, and we couldn't find any of the pipes they had all melted.
That's undoubtedly the reason for the regulation, but I wouldn't mind betting that plastic pipe would sometimes be used if it were not for the regulation, even though we all know that plastic pipe melts! Hence, the real answer to "Why not?" is probably "the regulation".
Kind Regards, John
And I sincerely hope you never do, it's frightening to say the least.
That blazing inferno at the goat and boots, I went into the cellar with a fireman to isolate the incoming gas main, so they could get everyone else out of the building.
They use plastic in some other countries.
I know they do - so do you agree with me that the reason you don't use it in this country is because the regulations forbid it?
Kind Regards, John
Can be the only reason, not sure for how much longer though
So you'd have the supplier turn off someones gas in the road because their installation isn't complying with gas regs, yet you're quite happy to leave an installation with a non-compliant electrical installation? Infact you even promote the use of non-compliant electrical installations, when making it compliant is a really easy thing to do.
The gas question you posted would be Immediately dangerous, and reportable.
I don't think your suggesting oversleeving a g&y is in the same category.
If you contact gassafe they would answer, the same as the registration bodies answered my electrical question.
The only difference you are saying they are talking ****.
Maybe they are maybe they ain't, 4 said I could 1 said I couldn't but hasn't come back with an explanation.
I just want an answer how bad is that.
If it wasn't for the stench from the **** bas posts, I would probably believe you.
I don't think your suggesting oversleeving a g&y is in the same category.
If you contact gassafe they would answer, the same as the registration bodies answered my electrical question.
The only difference you are saying they are talking ****.
Maybe they are maybe they ain't, 4 said I could 1 said I couldn't but hasn't come back with an explanation.
I just want an answer how bad is that.
If it wasn't for the stench from the **** bas posts, I would probably believe you.
What exactly does 'immediately dangerous' mean? Is it not the case that the chances of 'anything happening' as a result of plastic gas pipework in any particular house during the next decade or three is probably close to zero?
Kind Regards, John
That's exactly what I'm suggesting. Perhaps as a gas person you can see more wrong with that, or understand the risks a bit better than I can. To me it's not immediately dangerous. If it was left in place for a week or a month or a year providing there isn't a fire there'd be no problem. Just as I can understand the risks with the non-compliant eletcrical installation you see nothing wrong with.
We've told you there is a regulation (411.3.1.1) which mandates you must have a CPC to every point on a fixed wiring installation with the one specific exemption of insulated lampholders on flex drops.
If you've run a 3 core flex to a room stat and oversleeved the earth as you require live, switched live and neutral, then you have failed to provide a CPC to that position, which is not permitted by BS7671 (the wiring regulations)
If I undone all the nuts on you wheels and you drove up the M4 at 70mph would you say it was immediately dangerous and lives were at risk.
At best a sleeved cpc would be not to current standards and according to the regulatory bodies it's not even that.
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