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After the first one removed the evidence?
SO in the hypothetical are you saying Manslaughter or not manslaughter?
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...with the help of the Lizard people perhaps?
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imamartian
This country really is in a shocking state... and a lot of you are to blame....
OK, let's get rid of the police, so they don't brutalise us (i.e. slap a non-compliant protestor) anymore, and what will happen? Well let's just assume too, that the army needs disbanding, otherwise, they will just become the coppers but with guns.... So, it's Monday morning, and no more coppers... well all you plumbers will have your vans nicked... and those of you with shops... well you don't have one anymore. Oh and your daughters and wives are getting raped by that gang that just showed up with lots of guns.... and you with nice houses... well you better run and find a shanty town... etc etc..
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that this society works because of law and order...but some of you lot (and those idiots at the front of the riots) just want rid of it.... what you gonna do for controlling the scum of society?
Human beings aren't perfect, by a long way, but this society thing we have here is pretty good all things considered....
But you always get the individual who think they're better than the whole - take the human rights fiasco... human rights are important, but the human right of the individual shouldn't outweigh the human rights of the many...
The police don't brutalise (re the OP) they (very) occasionally get things wrong - JCD was a nightmare example... but what are you doubters gonna put in it's place? and can you guarantee 100%?
That silly woman who recently got a slap at a demo and she certainly wasn't brutalised, but like most of the idiots who stay at a protest march once the pushing and shoving starts, and the bottles and bricks start to fly, well they deserve a baton round up their rectums !!!
Mistakes will always happen, but if we had a bit more respect in this society... things would get better...
OK, let's get rid of the police, so they don't brutalise us (i.e. slap a non-compliant protestor) anymore, and what will happen? Well let's just assume too, that the army needs disbanding, otherwise, they will just become the coppers but with guns.... So, it's Monday morning, and no more coppers... well all you plumbers will have your vans nicked... and those of you with shops... well you don't have one anymore. Oh and your daughters and wives are getting raped by that gang that just showed up with lots of guns.... and you with nice houses... well you better run and find a shanty town... etc etc..
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that this society works because of law and order...but some of you lot (and those idiots at the front of the riots) just want rid of it.... what you gonna do for controlling the scum of society?
Human beings aren't perfect, by a long way, but this society thing we have here is pretty good all things considered....
But you always get the individual who think they're better than the whole - take the human rights fiasco... human rights are important, but the human right of the individual shouldn't outweigh the human rights of the many...
The police don't brutalise (re the OP) they (very) occasionally get things wrong - JCD was a nightmare example... but what are you doubters gonna put in it's place? and can you guarantee 100%?
That silly woman who recently got a slap at a demo and she certainly wasn't brutalised, but like most of the idiots who stay at a protest march once the pushing and shoving starts, and the bottles and bricks start to fly, well they deserve a baton round up their rectums !!!
Mistakes will always happen, but if we had a bit more respect in this society... things would get better...
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If you were in a car crash and died within minutes of it happening - would your family say it was just a coincidence. He'd have died before he reached his destination anyway? Never mind.
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Yes, but you wernt just trying to get in your home, you previously attacked him with nails. That makes you culpable in the event of death from his injuries in the eyes of the law.
Since you mention it, it was also the second time that day Mr Tomlinson had been attacked by the police as well............
No no you read it wrong, 'I' put the nail in his head, 'you' pushed him out the way.
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Get rid of the Police bad apples and Bully Boys and they might get a bit more eh?
..and your answer to the hypothetical?
Why is it silly? Because you realise that the only reasonable answer is that, "no that is not manslaughter..the fact that he is 2mm away from death has nothing to do with you, and all you were trying to do was act within your authority and go about your life. Yes it was unfortunate that he died but you are not responsible"
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I mean by all means say that the analogy is false for (x) reason, but atleast answer the question first.
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Lincsbodger
You think coroners dont interfere with evidence and collude with the police?
You really are naive to the point of absurdity.
Have a look at the case of Sally Clark. The convictions were based solely on the analysis of the deaths by the Home Office Pathologist Alan Williams, who failed to disclose relevant information about the deaths, and backed up by the paediatric professor Sir Roy Meadow, whose opinion was pivotal in several other child death convictions, many of which have been overturned or are in the process of being disputed. In 2005 Williams was found guilty of serious professional misconduct and barred from practicing pathology for 3 years.
Furthermore, the government has now given itself the powers to take over a coroners inquest, hold it in secret and put in its own obedient yes man to make the findings it wants.
And look at the David Kelly case - Lord Hutton has sealed the papers for 75 years, in order to stop 6 doctors carrying out there own post mortem. Theres clearly something there they dont want us to find out about.
And you still have faith in the findings of government run inquests and post mortems? You need to wake up and smell the coffee, we are having the wool pulled over our eyes all the time!!! The Establishment protects itself and makes sure nothing untoward gets out!! This is a police state, with state control of the truth!!!
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