Prescott the fat fkkr...

[masona]

mas it's the abuse im on about they judge his character from what they see and hear from the media, seems like too many people do this, the media stance seems to try to steer public opinion depending on editorial viewpoint rather than on unbiased news reporting.

Yep, I'm afraid life's not fair

Certain papers owners have their own hidden agendas and support certain parties for their own gains, this is where i think it becomes unfair as these people(barons) have the power and influence to change the general publics views and the way they vote.

I would say most most papers do this and I always said the media run the country specially The Sun and not the government but then again the government are not honest either

The Sun seem to be anti-Labour lately when it suit them

 

[Softus]

blimey what a moralist you are

I dont know him personally either but as he is a democratically elected official of MY country I feell that we are entitled to post what ever we like about him

...i'm fully entitled to say what i did so what's the problem?

Your post declared that you decline to judge Prescott because you don't know him, but you imply criticism of those on this topic who are judging him. Criticism involves a judgment, and you don't know those on the forum who you criticise, so you're a hypocrite - that's the problem.

 

[kendor]

blimey what a moralist you are

I dont know him personally either but as he is a democratically elected official of MY country I feell that we are entitled to post what ever we like about him

...i'm fully entitled to say what i did so what's the problem?

Your post declared that you decline to judge Prescott because you don't know him, but you imply criticism of those on this topic who are judging him. Criticism involves a judgment, and you don't know those on the forum who you criticise, so you're a hypocrite - that's the problem.

not at all softus you are judging me and thjerefore by your own admission that makes you a hypocrite too come on the comment was stating that they are making judgement on someone they don't know, i was merely stating from seeing their own posts that they were doing this and it seems you are taking this as me judging them when all i was saying was that some have but i won't as i dont know him personally.
so how does that make me hypocritical when you are the one whose reading too far into my comment? you mention imply and i'm glad you said that as it shows i didn't categorically say such a thing which i didn't yet you go on to say i'm a hypocrite that's judging me over something i'm alleged to have implied!! I don't think so softus but nice try mate!

 

[Softus]

you are judging me and thjerefore by your own admission that makes you a hypocrite too

You can attempt to shift the attention on to me if you wish, but I'm not the one who came on the topic all high and mighty and stated with no apparent purpose that you weren't judging John Prescott.

come on the comment was stating that they are making judgement on someone they don't know, i was merely stating from seeing their own posts that they were doing this and it seems you are taking this as me judging them when all i was saying was that some have but i won't as i dont know him personally. so how does that make me hypocritical when you are the one whose reading too far into my comment? you mention imply and i'm glad you said that as it shows i didn't categorically say such a thing which i didn't yet you go on to say i'm a hypocrite that's judging me over something i'm alleged to have implied!!

I don't think I'm reading too far into anything - your post conveyed the following information:

1. The fact that you are not prepared to publicly judge John Prescott.
2. The logical conclusion that you are prepared to privately judge John Prescott.
3. The implication that you disapprove of the public judgment of John Prescott.

You might now claim that the purpose of your post was merely to convey point 1, but that would not be a very credible claim. I don't see you posting on every topic that criticises people, stating that you don't publicly judge the subject of those other topics. I don't see a sticky topic declaring your general policy of not publicly judging people. Therefore I conclude that there was an additional point that you were making - this is simple logic.

My observation, not judgment, as per point 3 above, is that you were, and are, judging other posters according to your own moral code, in such a way as to be hypocritical. This isn't my judgment - it's a reasoned conclusion. You may take it as a criticism, if you think hypocrisy is a bad thing, but I've never claimed that I'm not prepared to publicly criticise, therefore my public criticism of you is not hypocrisy.

If I'm wrong, then I'll apologise, but can you explain the purpose of your post, because "merely stating from seeing their own posts that they were making judgement on someone they don't know" really doesn't wash I'm afraid.

 

[kendor]

softus get a life mate!
I was commenting on actual posts from the horses mouth if i'm to believe those posters are real and not robots or comments from others therefore i have personal knowledge of what they said unlike the second hand reporting of john prescotts comments therefore i reserve judgement.
so why you feel it your responsibility to have a go at me is beyond me!!
so much so that i can't even be bothered to read your reply before posting this so apologies if i say anything unjustified from your reply above.

 

[Softus]

get a life mate!

I have one - I'm just off to work now!

I was commenting on actual posts from the horses mouth if i'm to believe those posters are real and not robots or comments from others therefore i have personal knowledge of what they said unlike the second hand reporting of john prescotts comments therefore i reserve judgement.

Again - you're claiming that the only purpose of your first post on this topic was to state that you're reserving judgement. Frankly, I think you're concealing the truth from yourself.

so why you feel it your responsibility to have a go at me is beyond me!!

It isn't my responsibility, but I don't do everything that is my responsibility, and I do some things that aren't. It's a grey world.

so much so that i can't even be bothered to read your reply before posting this so apologies if i say anything unjustified from your reply above.

You did, but if you can't be bothered then you can't be bothered; that's fine by me - no apology is necessary. However, you could apologise to those people whom you judged in such a hypocritical way.

 

[kendor]

softus i'm already at work and so bored i eventually took the dubious step of actually reading your post and what a load of tosh you have come out with!
Firstly what's with this publicy and privately stuff ?? what relevence does it have in this context whether i would want to stand on top of a mountain and shout or whisper behind a door??

those posters were entitled to their opinions and whether i agree or disagree is up to me i didn't criticise them but merely said i (that's me,myself and I) won't comment on prescott as i don't know the facts.

as for the rest of your post seems you are building up a portfolio of an opinion of someone you don't know(myself) and coming out with comments with no bearing on what i have said in my posts.

In your previous post you say i havn't criticised others before, had you researched and looked at older posts you'd know this isn't the case.
if i was to comply with one of Softus's Commandments then to be able to post on every criticism of others i'd have to be on this forum 24/7 sorry I have another life elsewhere from this forum but feel free to do so yourself if you want!

your previous post is also full of implication and your own logical conclusions that you seem to have totally got the wrong end of the stick on everything said, therefore i cannot comment further on the post as it is totally meaningless and not relevant to any post here.

The general consensus from your above posts and i'm now talking from experience of what you have said is..... you really havn't got a clue what you are talking about and therefore should keep quiet and not have a dig at others until you are justified to do so.

 

[Nige F]

You all sound like a group of politicians

 

[kendor]

You all sound like a group of politicians

 

[oilman]

..........mas it's the abuse im on about they judge his character from what they see and hear from the media, seems like too many people do this, the media stance seems to try to steer public opinion depending on editorial viewpoint rather than on unbiased news reporting.................

Then I presume you are saying he shouldn't be judged for LANDING A PUNCH ON THE JAW OF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC as we only saw this on the television and the media was involved.

Why do you think no jobs Prescott should be protected from critism as he is now getting a fat salary and benefits at the taxpayers expense, merely to make him keep his gob shut so Bliar can continue in office?

 

[nelsy]

...and don't forget the very fat pension for life at the end of it.

 

[masona]

I normally find people won't hear a bad word against Prescott or Blair are very loyal Labour supporter type regardless if they have done wrong.

If the newspaper are wrong then why isn't Prescott suing them?

 

[joe-90]

Why should it matter that Prescott is fat?

What if he was black?

Would he be a 'black fkkr'?


joe

 

[corgiman]

seems like prescott has had such a profound effect on some of the forums members lives that they felt they had to post abuse about him.
As I don't know him personally i'll leave my comments to myself.

blimey what a moralist you are

I dont know him personally either but as he is a democratically elected official of MY country I feell that we are entitled to post what ever we like about him

How can we trust and depend on a man who is a proven liar?

same as i'm fully entitled to say what i did so what's the problem?.

No problem at all, just making an observation, I dont know george bush but I think he a meglomanical imperilistic moron, but he might be great to have a pint with, Who knows I dont.

All I am saying is that Prescott was at the forefront in attacking the tories over their sleaze, and took the micky out of Paddy Ashdown in the house when his affair came to light. I detest hyprocites who set them selfs up as all moral betters, I dont need to know the man to judge him on this.

As for the smug git walking out of no 10 with no jobs and all perks makes me wonder what the fat got has on blair??

PS I dont know blair either but I hate what he represents, not accountablity for senior ministers, the demolition of our demcratic procedures

oh yes and his lies have cost LIVES

But as I dont know him I'd best keep my opinions to meself

 

[masona]

As for the smug git walking out of no 10 with no jobs and all perks makes me wonder what the fat got has on blair??

I give you one guess