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I suspect that UK spends far more on trying to prevent asylum seekers reaching UK....than it ever "gives to immigrants".
Population growth since Blair = 10 million
Many of them are immigrants. Many of them will be on benefits consuming billions year in, year out and breeding more claimants. For ever!
 
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You see it that way as you don't understand the need. It's pretty simple really - future carrying capacity. That is too tough an idea of some to take in and if they don't see why that is needed there is no point in arguing about it.
You seem to agree with everything the government does!
 
I read in the FT recently that Germany currently provides 40% of electricity from renewables, and is targetting 60% in a plan accelerated since Russia started the war with Ukraine.

Making a pretty good effort.

Though they do not have our advantages of tidal, wave and offshore resources.
While burning huge amounts of the dirtiest coal, as they clsoed many of their nuclear plants.
Which is a major reason for this:
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Tidal is negligible at the moment btw. There's potential but we choose not to invest.
I suspect that 'we' (the majority of the population) would choose to invest in tidal etc...

But governments and those that fund them/vested interests think otherwise!

And to state the bleeding obvious yet again, governments have no money to invest - it is our money!

People need to stick together to force change.
I quite like the idea of the 'don't pay your energy bill' movement doing the rounds at the moment...

But it will never work, as it would require everyone to do the same thing.
We are wedded to 'divide and rule' tactics, and the system is set up in such a way that only a very few don't have to worry about 'too much to lose'!

Thus I am also guilty of succumbing to the above!

One wonders what the trigger will be to change the herd mindset, and when it will happen?
 
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One wonders what the trigger will be to change the herd mindset, and when it will happen?
people will be cold and hungry this winter

the next 2 years will see a lot of hate building for the Tory party
 
You seem to agree with everything the government does!
No a far better idea of the reasoning than you appear to have. Actually the various iideas have to attract investment from various sources of money - the gov not being one of them but they may put some in. The bulk comes from elsewhere - they want a return on what they invest.

While burning huge amounts of the dirtiest coal,
They stopped burning that type of coal a long time ago. True - there route to renewables does appear to be more difficult but on the other hand the 60 or more year commitment nuke needs does have it's off putting aspects. I see it as an interesting excuse. The main reason is the population voting no nuke. The Japanese explosion made that certain.
 
No a far better idea of the reasoning than you appear to have. Actually the various iideas have to attract investment from various sources of money - the gov not being one of them but they may put some in. The bulk comes from elsewhere - they want a return on what they invest.


They stopped burning that type of coal a long time ago. True - there route to renewables does appear to be more difficult but on the other hand the 60 or more year commitment nuke needs does have it's off putting aspects. I see it as an interesting excuse. The main reason is the population voting no nuke. The Japanese explosion made that certain.
They still burn it, and even demolished a village(s) to dig up more:


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And:
"Germany to reactivate coal power plants as Russia curbs gas flow"
Like many countries, the opposition to nuclear power is based upon fear, and nothing else.
 
Okay I'm going into cloud cuckoo land now, however it would be very interesting to see how governments and major energy industry players would react if someone discovered how to generate essentially free energy at extremely low cost. I expect they would try to buy (and bury) the idea off the inventor ... or just bury the inventor!
Already been done. It's called the E-Cat, invented by Andrea Rossi. Basically a mini cold fusion generator about the size of a CH boiler. Endless cheap energy with no pollution. Rossi has been bringing it to market 'next year' for about 25 years now. Can't wait.
 
Like many countries, the opposition to nuclear power is based upon fear, and nothing else.
The latest change to nuke stations is more internal containment to restrict spread if and when they go wrong. Sadly they can.

German coal - they have been importing cleaner stuff from Russia. Same could be obtained from China - lower cost at our docks than from our pit heads. From the same link
Germany is moving forward with its coal phaseout. Last week, the Cabinet approved a package of draft legislation that would accelerate the expansion of renewable energy. Under that bill, renewable energy would generate 80 percent of the country’s power mix by 2030, double what it is currently.

Given other more recent changes I'd say they will be meeting that - no choice. In the mean time the ecconomy has to run just like elsewhere including us. In some ways the major producers are more of a problem but the lower level ones also stack up and in many cases are also importing which shifts the co2 production elsewhere. This makes some of the web info about on the subject total garbage. Eg Buy any euro car and you are passing the problem on to them. The same applies to a whole host of things and is generally totally ignored by greens - they would rather nit pick other countries. Stop buying the stuff and what the hell do you think would happen.
 
One wonders what the trigger will be to change the herd mindset, and when it will happen?
What we need is a large number of conceited, condescending, imperious, pontifical, arrogant, (self) opinionated, self-important yet insignificant and anonymous members on Internet forums chip, chip, chipping away at the government and perhaps sometime in the next hundred years or so there might be enough of them to hold their political party conference in a telephone box. At least you’ve made a start.
 
What we need is a large number of conceited, condescending, imperious, pontifical, arrogant, (self) opinionated, self-important yet insignificant and anonymous members on Internet forums chip, chip, chipping away at the government and perhaps sometime in the next hundred years or so there might be enough of them to hold their political party conference in a telephone box. At least you’ve made a start.
A quicker way of course would be to get rid of ignorant creepy stalking trolls that frequent this forum...

Stage door to your left it is for you (y)
 
The latest change to nuke stations is more internal containment to restrict spread if and when they go wrong. Sadly they can.
Its the safest energy source we have.
German coal - they have been importing cleaner stuff from Russia. Same could be obtained from China - lower cost at our docks than from our pit heads. From the same link
Germany is moving forward with its coal phaseout. Last week, the Cabinet approved a package of draft legislation that would accelerate the expansion of renewable energy. Under that bill, renewable energy would generate 80 percent of the country’s power mix by 2030, double what it is currently.
The second link (which is from July) says:
"Before the Ukraine conflict, Germany planned to phase out coal by 2030 as it is far more carbon intensive than gas. But when gas supplies from Russia – on which Germany is highly dependent – started running short after Russia reduced the flow, moves were made to restart coal-fired power plants that had been mothballed."
Given other more recent changes I'd say they will be meeting that - no choice. In the mean time the ecconomy has to run just like elsewhere including us. In some ways the major producers are more of a problem but the lower level ones also stack up and in many cases are also importing which shifts the co2 production elsewhere. This makes some of the web info about on the subject total garbage. Eg Buy any euro car and you are passing the problem on to them. The same applies to a whole host of things and is generally totally ignored by greens - they would rather nit pick other countries. Stop buying the stuff and what the hell do you think would happen.
There are many who say we (collectively) will need to do such things (burn fossil fuels) to plug the gap, and invest at an accelerated rate into low carbon technology in the coming decades, far more than planned, owing to the war. Not good for the economy, as the cost is going to be huge.

When I say low carbon tech, I don't just mean wind/solar, but also nuclear, hydrogen (for things like steel), low carbon concrete etc.
 
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