I don't know - but the Wring Matters article that said that it was an "increasingly common practice" was published less than 3 years ago.
Removal of ev charger
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Yes, it does seem a little odd - it is, after all, now part of the electrical installation (even if installed in a very iffy way) and I presume that he would not be considering taking any other bits of the installation with him when he leaves? (although I have in my time experienced an outgoing owner making off with all the light bulbs
).I guess at over £1000 (no grants anymore?) and a need to be able to fill your car up, soon after you moved in, drives one to this.
Yes, I imagine that the thinking must be something like that. However, one might mnot have to stretch that thinking far to also take, say, a CU, if the new house needed a new one
A buyer would presumably expect all elements of 'the electrical installation' to be left - so, if the EV charge point is going to be removed, I would think that it would need to be done before contracts were exchanged, quite probably earlier (when conveyancing forms were completed by seller) - since if part of the electrical installation was going to be removed before completion of the purchase, one imagines that the buyer would have to be told before they became committed to the purchase?
There is a thorough document to be completed by the vendor indicating which fixtures and fittings are and are not included in the sale, including specifically bulbs, lamps, switches, sockets, EV charger etc.Yes, I imagine that the thinking must be something like that. However, one might mnot have to stretch that thinking far to also take, say, a CU, if the new house needed a new one
A buyer would presumably expect all elements of 'the electrical installation' to be left - so, if the EV charge point is going to be removed, I would think that it would need to be done before contracts were exchanged, quite probably earlier (when conveyancing forms were completed by seller) - since if part of the electrical installation was going to be removed before completion of the purchase, one imagines that the buyer would have to be told before they became committed to the purchase?
One of the flats I viewed as a potential rental property had already had all of the electrical accessories including metal back boxes, CU, meter etc removed and the cables cut so totally not usable. All exposed metal was gone too; pipes, rads, kitched door handles, hinges etc and fires in any plastic sanitary ware. I didn't buy that one.
Indeed there is - it was the TA10 to which I was referring.
It's quite a while since I last had to look at or complete one of these forms, but what I recall from the last time was that (perhaps slightly bizarrely), the only items of what one might call parts of the 'fixed electrical installation' which were included in the very extensive list of items on the form were (if I recall correctly - would need to check) light fittings, light switches and electrical sockets - with, I suspect, the assumption that (unless explicitly added as 'Other' items) any parts of the fixed electrical installation not included in the list were going to be left in situ. Have the forms evolved since I last saw them?
If I bought a house on the basis of a TA10 that just indicated that the light fittings, light switches and electrical sockets were being left, with no comments about any other part of the electrical installation (hence assumed by me to be remaining), only to find that, say, the CU had been removed, I think I might be fairly upset!
However, as I said, all the OP would need to do if he really wants to take the EV charge point with him is to make sure that he mentions it (as an 'Other' item that is not included in the sale) on a TA10 completed before the exchange of contracts.
We have just completed one, it coveres loads now, including who the current landline and broadband provider androuter, I think it's 12 pages and covers room by room whereas the last version we both did was a single A3 (4 pages) and blocked similar items together.
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Interesting. I must look back. The last TA10 I saw or did had around 10 pages (at least 8, I'm sure). However, the TA10 only relates to 'fixtures and fittings' and I'm pretty sure that the most recent one I've seen only had the few items of the 'fixed electrical installation' which I mentioned (although the seller always has been free to add anything else as an 'Other' item, and then indicate whether or not it is part of the sale.
However, there is also the TA6, which is a much longer form asking for details of many aspects of the property (including such things as boundaries, the presence of Japanese knotweed, whether Radon tests have been undertaken, flooding, solar panels, disputes with neighbours, 'permissions'/consents/certifications etc. etc.) . I don't know whether it's the most recent version, but I have a copy of the 2020 one, which runs to 16 pages, and includes questions about the suppliers of electricity, gas, water and telephone services, but not broadband ... (and no mention anywhere about routers or EV charging equipment, since it's not really the right form for that).
It's the TA6 which, for example, asks if any electrical work has been undertaken since 1st January 2005 and, if so, asks for a "signed BS7671 Electrical Safety Certificate" (an animal which, of course, does not exist
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Rough; there was a time when I would have taken all my mega man dim-to-warm LED GU10s because they were £7 a pop and there were over 50 of them, but the bloody things have been so unreliable any new owner would be welcome to the few still left functioning!I have in my time experienced an outgoing owner making off with all the light bulbs
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Public charging is a thing you can tide over with, as is a granny charger. Buying an EV charger ahead of time so you have it brand new in the boot of your car puts you in the same position, or working out with the seller to have a charger installed at some point before moving in if you're dead set on that house and nothing is gonna derail/the sale has reached a point where it will complete
Cor, bet they got fifty quid for weighing all that in. Totally worth lowering offers by thousands
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not a Charger - which is in the Vehicle.
Leave it where it is
and
get a new one when you move.
The device is a Charge Point
not a Charger - which is in the Vehicle.
Leave it where it is
and
get a new one when you move.
The new house owner may hate EVs
And wants rid of the ugly charger.
We really don’t need to get into that detail
And wants rid of the ugly charger.
We really don’t need to get into that detail
It is - and, although I have sometimes reverted to the very common practice of calling it a 'charger', I have tried to remember to call it 'charge point' in what I've written above!
Yes, as I've implied, I'm sure that's what most people would do, and what most buyers of houses would expect to happen.
However, it would seem that the fact that it is a 'charge point' is not, in itself, a guarantee that some people will not want to remove it . For as far back as I can remember (maybe 'for ever') one of the very few parts of an electrical installation that the standard UK conveyancing forms has required one to indicate whether or not they are part of the sale of the property (i.e. whether they are going to be 'removed') are the 'electrical sockets' - so the perception must have been that some sellers might want to 'make off' with those sockets (presumably 'fancy'/expensive ones, that they would presumably have to replace with cheap ones!)
True, but that could be a bit short-sighted - if they believed that, sooner or later (probably 'much later'
) EVs are going to become the only sort of vehicle available!
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Will that ever happen?
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