Rewire Regulations

[JohnW2]

New builds are required to have them at those heights, no need to so so on a rewire, although if doing a full refurbishment, some might choose to.

Just to clarify, even with new builds such heights are not 'required' - they are merely guidelines/recommendations. In any event, as you imply, certainly not relevant to anything but new builds or large-scale refurbishments.

Kind Regards, John

 

[SUNRAY]

In all honest, I expected the new sockets and switches going back into the holes the old ones were in.
I told him to do minimal damage to the walls but I could patch up small bits. But I told him not to damage the ceilings because of the pattern and there was no room in the budget to get walls replastered. The house is a 60s prefab so the walls are all hollow, with the odd one having an egg box construction inside. So we've had to use our kitchen budget to replaster all the walks and ceilings throughout the house.

We were due to have furniture delivered on Tuesday but one of his lads took the conservatory keys home and turned his phone off to save returning them so we had to refuse the delivery as we had nowhere else to store the stuff. We've now to pay £60 to have it redelivered.
The day they took the keys they decided to park one side of the van on the decking which broke the planks in the middle so it's now unsafe. Another unnecessary and unexpected expense.

If you told him not to damage the ceilings then I'd ask him to return and fit the lights in the old locations and refuse any payment until that is done and then deduct the cost of reinstating the artex.

So thats the cost of decking, furniture delivery and artex to come from his insurance.

 

[chivers67]

I take it h hasn't actually finished yet as such - The labelling isn't ideal yet "Lights" for instance should be "Lights up" or "Lights Down" but have to give him slack until you get the install Cert with all Test results,

 

[musashi79uk]

I take it h hasn't actually finished yet as such - The labelling isn't ideal yet "Lights" for instance should be "Lights up" or "Lights Down" but have to give him slack until you get the install Cert with all Test results,

He's finished and invoiced me for the final £1380 which is due now. He says he will send out the certificate once I've paid the balance. He also says he can't leave my power on for too long without a certificate.

 

[JohnW2]

... He says he will send out the certificate once I've paid the balance. He also says he can't leave my power on for too long without a certificate.

Good grief - it sounds as if you really have found a tradesman who deserves being brought to the attention of 'investigative journalists'!

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

I would report him to whoever you can.

The registration scheme to which he belongs - NICEIC, Elecsa, Napit, Stroma - might be another or two.
Trading standards.
Newspapers.
CAB.


He sounds an absolute lying con-merchant and idiot - a total disgrace.

 

[chivers67]

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What did the previous board have with regards to circuits? Have you got a garage? Is it a large house? I find it a little odd there are four MCBs labelled sockets and two are labelled Cooker yet one is switched off. Just wonder if he changed his mind when terminating the cable for your cooker circuit of have you got two and one is switched off? If it's been tested correctly and there is a Cerfificate they'd be no reason to turn the power off but I think you've no doubt guessed that's just bogus to make you cough up the money.

 

[musashi79uk]

He's now pointing to his T&Cs on his website which isn't the one on his invoices or what he informed me about to start with. He's pointing out that those T&Cs state he couldn't guarantee he wouldn't do any damage.

 

[musashi79uk]

What did the previous board have with regards to circuits? Have you got a garage? Is it a large house? I find it a little odd there are four MCBs labelled sockets and two are labelled Cooker yet one is switched off. Just wonder if he changed his mind when terminating the cable for your cooker circuit of have you got two and one is switched off? If it's been tested correctly and there is a Cerfificate they'd be no reason to turn the power off but I think you've no doubt guessed that's just bogus to make you cough up the money.

We requested 2 cooker switches putting in as when we get around to putting a new kitchen in, there will he a double oven and an electric hob so it will require 2. For now, one terminates inside a cooker switch and the other is connected to the existing freestanding oven.
The old board was only had about 6 switches on. It's a 2 bedroom semi with a conservatory and utility room.

 

[EFLImpudence]

It's lucky he still wants £1400 or I suspect you would not have heard from him again.

We requested 2 cooker switches putting in as when we get around to putting a new kitchen in, there will he a double oven and an electric hob so it will require 2.

Only if you want two switches. It's not mandatory to even have one.

 

[JohnW2]

... T&Cs on his website ... He's pointing out that those T&Cs state he couldn't guarantee he wouldn't do any damage.

Just when we possibly thought it couldn't, it's got worse!

As EFLI and myself have said, you really need to 'report him' to someone, preferably everyone one you can think of - and, if I were you, I'd certainly being hanging on to the remaining £1,400 whilst doing that 'reporting'!

Kind Regards, John

 

[musashi79uk]

And he's refusing to give me his insurance details as he puts the claim in. He says I have 7 days to pay up before he starts adding charges but once I do, he'll put that claim in.

 

[Taylortwocities]

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Need a closer photo of the consumer unit. The label says "Time Delayed RCD" and that is very very wrong, if that is what he has fitted. Also, lets see the inside. That's the mark of an artisan.

 

[sparkwright]

It seems like an excessive amount of damage for seemingly hollow plasterboard walls, but then I don't know f there is an unusual amount of noggins inside.

He should have taken notice when you asked about keeping the lights where they were, thankfully I think they could be put back leaving very minor repairs to the ceiling.

I'm surprised he didn't try to fit the plasterboard squares back for you, it's a poor state to leave it if there's no one else on board to repair it. This kind of repair goes with the job if there's no other trade present to do it.

Egg box walls are hard to get cables through, though there are various methods, alternatives, dodges etc.

There's often a better way to negotiate coving than his attempt. We all make mistakes, but damaged coving to that extent makes a difficult repair that often can't be totally disguised.

Cables would have been better in conduit where the wall has been dug out, but not a requirement so I won't go there.

Most of the cables seem to be in cable zones, but some are slightly out of it.

I think this bloke may be a bit inexperienced or just a bodger.

However, if you agreed to do repairs to the wall, I don't see you've got much of a case to be honest.

Was he prepared to put the lights back where you want them? There is no rule about putting them in the centre or anything like that. He does talk some rubbish.

 

[chivers67]

Need a closer photo of the consumer unit. The label says "Time Delayed RCD" and that is very very wrong, if that is what he has fitted. Also, lets see the inside. That's the mark of an artisan.

Looks the same as the other one I suspect he's placed the wrong label on it or his apprentice or somthing. Good spot though!