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Brink back points and condenser's lol

We should all go back in time before a/c power steering and auto choke/ECU's lol

Remember them days fondly, was only 20 years ago they were still regular place on the roads.

I do like progress though, I think the 90's and early 00's were the optimum time for cars, clever enough to work all the time and start on first turn of the key but easy enough to maintain. Still had switches and buttons for the controls and radio.

You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to change the radio station lol.
(For those idiots on here who take things litteraly, this is a JOKE )

I'm looking forward to the future, but I'm not convinced relying solely on electrification is the way to go.

I still think hydrogen is the better way forward eventually, however there needs to be serious investment so that we can produce it clean enough to make it worthwhile.

Though saying that even if we use fossil fuels to make it, its still better than having millions of cars which is fossil fuel powered. As is the case with electric cars, they are not completely carbon neutral, the mining of the ore is quite carbon intensive and is still a blight on the surface and a damage to to the natural environment. But this is offset against the ammount of fossil cars that won't be on the road in cities etc
 
I know Toyota, had a 5year warranty on Batteries and if you have the car service by them , they will extend to 10 years - BUT who knows how many different revisions and size changes may happen. Then into Sorry that Parts now obsolete etc etc
Indeed.

With a bit of metal-bashing and ingenuity you can often get an entirely different engine to fit into a car, even if it makes no economic sense.

I suspect that may never be possible with battery packs.
 
Brink back points and condenser's lol

We should all go back in time before a/c power steering and auto choke/ECU's lol

Remember them days fondly, was only 20 years ago they were still regular place on the roads.

I do like progress though, I think the 90's and early 00's were the optimum time for cars, clever enough to work all the time and start on first turn of the key but easy enough to maintain. Still had switches and buttons for the controls and radio.

You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to change the radio station lol.
(For those idiots on here who take things litteraly, this is a JOKE )

I'm looking forward to the future, but I'm not convinced relying solely on electrification is the way to go.

I still think hydrogen is the better way forward eventually, however there needs to be serious investment so that we can produce it clean enough to make it worthwhile.

Though saying that even if we use fossil fuels to make it, its still better than having millions of cars which is fossil fuel powered. As is the case with electric cars, they are not completely carbon neutral, the mining of the ore is quite carbon intensive and is still a blight on the surface and a damage to to the natural environment. But this is offset against the ammount of fossil cars that won't be on the road in cities etc
A blight on the landscape you said, sorry to go off topic but have you been to Cornwall lately? It's building site after building site with a wind turbine farm in-between..
 
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A blight on the landscape you said, sorry to go off topic but have you been to Cornwall lately? It's building site after building site with a wind turbine farm in-between..

Aren't they talking of starting lithium mines in Cornwall also?
 
No reason why they shouldnt, and many do, last decades.

I wonder what the reality of replacing the batteries in a 2020 EV car in 2040 will be.
It'll cost the same as a catalytic converter.

In 2020 the most popular EV was the Tesla model 3. The average price was $137 per kWh (Tesla is assumed to be lower than average due to volumes). Given an a battery size of 60kWh it cost $8,220 when it was built. BNEF think battery costs will be be between $61 and $73 per kWh by 2030. So in 10 years the battery pack will cost ~ $4,100, probably for a far more capable battery.
 
Indeed.

With a bit of metal-bashing and ingenuity you can often get an entirely different engine to fit into a car, even if it makes no economic sense.

I suspect that may never be possible with battery packs.
People have fitted Tesla drive trains into Audis and BMWs already.

For structural batteries you'll end up with drop in replacements or refurbished ones for the most common brands. You can already buy upgraded third part batteries for Nissan leafs to turn your old 24kWh one into a 40/60kWh one.
 
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