RNLI takes down its website after suspected hacking attempt

[AngleEyes]

I agree, they should station the rescuers nice and close to the source of the migrants and take them to the nearest safe port, rather than track them in their peril for 2-3 hours until they enter UK waters and then taxi them to dover.

You can't rescue anyone who refuses to be rescued.
You're still pushing Nigel Farage's anti-immigration narrative.
No doubt you approved of his 7,000,000 Turks waiting to come to UK, and other xenophobic fake news items.

And the nearest Lifeboat station to NI is Stranraer which is about 30 miles from NI.

 

[motorbiking]

You can't rescue anyone who refuses to be rescued.

Why don't they want to be rescued? Are they not in danger?
Is it that they only want help once in UK waters?

Isn't that illegal?

 

[Notch7]

A couple of fast B class vessels based out of Northern France should be capable of getting anywhere in the risk zone below in under an hour.

since France accepts 3x more asylum seeker applications than the UK, France has no interest in reducing the numbers leaving its shores

 

[motorbiking]

This is an interesting read and sheds a lot of light on strategies adopted. I don’t think france is processing 3 x as many as the uk. Though accept there are no numbers on the graph.

https://www.nrc.no/shorthand/fr/a-f...ty-for-most-of-the-worlds-refugees/index.html

 

[motorbiking]

in practice that seems to mean it would break international law.



Seems to be govt spin.

it means: more security rights and entitlements to those that arrive by legal means….which is basically zero

then prevent the others the right to claim asylum.

Denmark has done it without any apparent legal issues.

 

[Notch7]

Denmark has done it without any apparent legal issues.

its a tiny country, population of 5.8M hardly of any relevance

Perhaps you could explain how if every country did the same, what you think would happen to people displaced by war and persecution?

 

[Notch7]

This is an interesting read and sheds a lot of light on strategies adopted. I don’t think france is processing 3 x as many as the uk. Though accept there are no numbers on the graph.

https://www.nrc.no/shorthand/fr/a-f...ty-for-most-of-the-worlds-refugees/index.html

asylum applications 2020

France 87,659
UK 29,456

 

[JohnD]

asylum applications 2020

France 87,659
UK 29,456

And yet kippers and the anti-foreigner, anti-refugee lobby wants to portray UK as hard-done-by.

 

[festive]

So whilst a UK citizen drowns on our shores due to an engaged life boat attempting to 'save' people in a dinghy not happy with already escaping their home country and hopping right across Europe to the UK to 'seek' asylum... No it's wrong, they get in a queue like everyone else has to, id say their right to jump the queue ends once they are in safe territory. Id love to live in Australia i can't easily, and no i wont sneak over in a dinghy just because i feel it's my right to do so.

Its utterly wrong. This country is already down the toilet. As i say before, i want the streets of spain to remain spanish the streets of france to remain french etc and the same for the UK.

 

[AngleEyes]

Why don't they want to be rescued? Are they not in danger?
Is it that they only want help once in UK waters?

You're asking the wrong question.
What would be the point in spending a long cold night hiding in the dunes, boarding a small RIB in the middle of winter for which you've forked maybe thousands of dosh, that is overcrowded, to risk a hazardous Channel crossing, simply to surrender to French border patrol who will return them back to France, only for them to have to hand over another wad of cash for another attempt.

Isn't that illegal?

Isn't what illegal, refusing to be rescued because you don't consider yourself to be in danger, then later, in mid-Channel, deciding that you are in danger, and agree to be rescued?
It would be dangerous, and possibly illegal for France to take any refugee boat by force.

You're asking the wrong questions.
The question you should be asking is: why does UK government not make a safe route for asylum seekers?
It would immediately obliterate the 'people smuggling' market, save the RNLI a lot of risk and cash, and demonstrate UK as a civil, moral and ethical country.
If it were not for the RNLI, the UK would be seen internationally as a heartless country, devoid of any care for refugees. Only the actions of the RNLI prevents that reputation for the UK.

 

[AngleEyes]

So whilst a UK citizen drowns on our shores

People don't normally drown on the shores.

 

[AngleEyes]

they get in a queue like everyone else has to,

What queue are you referring to?
Is there a queue to be rescued?
Or do you mean the queue for the safe route for applying for asylum in UK?

 

[AngleEyes]

i want the streets of spain to remain spanish the streets of france to remain french etc and the same for the UK.

Your philosophy is all wrong.
You don't want the refugees coming to UK, (to own the streets), but you're quite happy for the refugees to stay in France or Spain, (to own their streets)?
The Chinese own Australia, or at least, most of the infrastructure. Do you object to that?

 

[festive]

What queue are you referring to?
Is there a queue to be rescued?
Or do you mean the queue for the safe route for applying for asylum in UK?

No queue needed to be rescued they are safe in Europe are they not??? Why jump in the sea endangering lives of emergency and other British servicemen and possibly causing the death of genuine people in the sea in boats or swimmers in distress need saving when these resources are being utilised by time wasters? How do you justify that? Absolute blind idiotic response as usual.

 

[festive]

Your philosophy is all wrong.
You don't want the refugees coming to UK, (to own the streets), but you're quite happy for the refugees to stay in France or Spain, (to own their streets)?
The Chinese own Australia, or at least, most of the infrastructure. Do you object to that?

Im not happy with them being anywhere. All the countries responsible for destabilising should be responsible for stabilising their home country allowing them safe return. They should be granted safe stay until the responsible has resolved the mess they made in the first place.