Rwanda Poll

[Deleted member 294929]

When the Tory party and it’s supporting press stop lying about Brexit…..then I will accept it.

Then maybe your just going to die a bitter man.

 

[JohnD]

Then maybe your just going to die a bitter man.

Anti-Europeans spent more than 40 years whining and lying about the EU.

The remaining ones are still moaning.

The rest of us, and especially younger Britons and other Europeans, have seen what a dishonest disaster Brexit is.

What sort of fool would believe anything Johnson or Farage said?

 

[sxturbo]

i've seen a lot of people say it is illegal, but there appears to be no proof that it is illegal, the worst i have seen is that it is deemed as unethical, but if Rwanda is safe why is it deemed unethical?

refugees want a safe place to live, is it because they dont get the same benefits when they land in Rwanda?

 

[JP_]

400 million to relocate 200 people

Could give them each a nice house and lifetime private health insurance and private education etc. for that.

 

[JP_]

They will get to know that if you cross the channel then they will possibly end up in Rwanda.. there is only so much money the middle class have but they can start the journey again from Rwanda.

And what if all they want is that chance to get considered for refugee / asylum status in the UK? They will still come, but rather than us putting them up in an empty hotel, we ship them halfway around the world at a huge cost to the taxpayer, with the same result.

Might as well commission some P&O ferries that are currently out of action and sail out to Syria and collect the refugees and bring them here and build them new homes. Would probably be cheaper, and the world won't think we're becoming the next Third Reich.

 

[Notch7]

i've seen a lot of people say it is illegal, but there appears to be no proof that it is illegal, the worst i have seen is that it is deemed as unethical, but if Rwanda is safe why is it deemed unethical?

refugees want a safe place to live, is it because they dont get the same benefits when they land in Rwanda?

I believe it breaches refugee convention and ECHR.

but which specific part of those international laws doesn’t seem to have been mentioned in the media, as you point out

 

[Notch7]

Then maybe your just going to die a bitter man.

No, seeking the truth is a positive action.

Bodds head in sand approach is most negative, are you not curious as to why Brexit is failing somdismally, yet Tory MPs are telling you it’s wonderful.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

When the Tory party and it’s supporting press stop lying about Brexit…..then I will accept it.

Then maybe your just going to die a bitter man.

Firstly it breaks international law, so the legal cost will be huge
secondly it’s already been tried and it hasn’t worked.

and thirdly, the govt haven’t introduced because it might be a solution, they’ve introduced it because it is good for their ratings…..because people like you believe the cr@p they spew out.

If all that you say is true then you have nothing to worry you. Just let it go.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

No, seeking the truth is a positive action.

Bodds head in sand approach is most negative, are you not curious as to why Brexit is failing somdismally, yet Tory MPs are telling you it’s wonderful.

I'm busier than ever, I'm not sure it falling in all the areas you say.

 

[wobs]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2058313.html

"There was a total of 2,150 Rwandan asylum applications in the UK between 2001 and 2021.
In the same period, there were 1,229 grants of protection – either full refugee status or another form of permission to stay in the UK."

Then, there's the Rwandans that went to other European or African countries to seek asylum

 

[Notch7]

I'm busier than ever, I'm not sure it falling in all the areas you say.

Just because you are busy is nothing to do with it.

look at the overall economy

look at the critical state of British farming

look at the damage Brexit is having on British business

look at the delays at Dover

look at the £10b costs of red tape

look at the massive extra work required to import and export to out largest trade partner

look at the increase cost of importing - it now takes an extra 24 hours to import fresh goods, say mushrooms from Poland and it now needs a customs agent to deal with the paperwork.


And what are the benefits: FA

 

[ajohn]

Going on brief broadcasts of talks in the house it still isn't clear what the plan is even down to the extent of who will be sent to Rwanda and why etc. Currently it sounds rushed out and basically a distraction from party gate. Ukraine is too really - over blown importance of a PM. Priti is a child of immigrants.

The only argument in favour is reducing the number of boats. How effective that is will depend on how the people are handled. The same applies when sent to Rwanda.

 

[Notch7]

Then maybe your just going to die a bitter man

Brexit supporters are the sad bitter salty losers

The poor things are twisted up in knots

 

[Mottie]

This might sound naive, but couldn't we have a couple of light aircraft patrolling the beaches in France 24/7 and as soon as they see a boatful of migrants launched, send a fast boat to intercept them while still in French waters? Yes, it will cost, but if the migrants get to know that they won't get more than a few miles from French soil before being turned back, the trade might disappear.

 

[Mottie]

Brexit supporters are the sad bitter salty losers

The poor things are twisted up in knots

I'm bitter about nothing. I still don't see how I am a loser. You seem to be bitter about everything.