Second vote?

[ellal]

Its all the fault of pesky remainers causing division

Or maybe it's the fault of the 'flip flopping quitters' who didn't quite understand what they were voting for at the time...

Do you know anyone like that?

 

[JP_]

Don't you mean third vote?

We voted in
We voted out
in, out, in out, shake it all about

 

[Notch7]

Or maybe it's the fault of the 'flip flopping quitters' who didn't quite understand what they were voting for at the time...

Do you know anyone like that?

There arent any flip flopping quitters, only divisive remainers

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Time will tell.

Time will show that it was the quitling traitors who were responsible for the sort of division likely to only be exceeded by those left by civil wars.

 

[motorbiking]

Don't you mean third vote?

We voted in
We voted out
in, out, in out, shake it all about

technically we didn't.. The first referendum was very similar to this one.

Remainers have their chance - lobby MPs to vote to amend the deal with a cancellation of article 50. TM has said that parliament wont allow no deal Brexit if the deal is voted down.

 

[JP_]

You're right. The referendum on both occasions was just a way for the government to gauge public feeling. The government are free to do as they please. There is still a chance that they might make the a decision that works well for the whole country. Just like they managed with the poll tax and closing down the mines ...

 

[durhamplumber]

The original referendum was badly designed. It never defined what leave was and it should have required a super majority of something like 60% plus as a true reflection of people's desires.

Having a referendum that splits the county helps no one especially the self serving tory ****s pulling the tory party apart. Had high hopes for Cameron but I'm done with the torys after voting for them twice.

Would of been ridiculous and stupid beyond belief..Could of ended 59% out,41% in,and we would of stayed in!..Top stupid idea

 

[EFLImpudence]

would have ...

 

[durhamplumber]

Or maybe it's the fault of the 'flip flopping quitters' who didn't quite understand what they were voting for at the time...

Do you know anyone like that?

Steady lad, ,steady,,another ban heading your way

 

[durhamplumber]

There arent any flip flopping quitters, only divisive remainers

Spot on ..They like school kids spitting the dummy out big style,then having a tantrum because they have not had their own way.Then blaming everyone else for their bad behaviour.

 

[durhamplumber]

I don't understand why every committed leaver isn't shouting from the rooftops for a second vote. I can't think of a better way for them to dispel all the doubts and questions about the integrity of the first one, to show beyond doubt that remainers are an out-of-touch minority and so on.

Surely the more sure any leaver is of the rectitude of his cause, and of the democratic support for his favoured course of action, the more he should be demanding "bring it on".

• The costs of doing it would be insignificant in the context of just the cost of preparing to leave. AIUI the official public cost of Ref 1 was about £142M, less than 3.5% of what's been set aside so far for Brexit preparations, and less than 3-days worth of NHS £350M per week. Cost is not a serious objection.

• The time taken also could not be a serious objection when set against the 50-year timescale for leaving to make us better off. What real difference will it make if we go into the black in, say September 2069 instead of March 2069?

• Nobody who would be fed up with the campaigning and process of voting again would have to take part. Like any other election they would be free to take as much or as little notice as they wanted to, and would be free to decide whether to spend a few minutes in a polling station or not.

• It's impossible to see how a case could be made that a second vote would be disrespecting the result of the first. Politicians saying "You know what? We've decided leaving is stupid and we aren't going to do it" - that would be disrespecting the will of the people. But this:
  
  "You said you wanted to leave, so we started the process of leaving. This is the deal we have negotiated, so will you please tell us do you want to:
  
  
  
  a) Leave on the basis of this deal
  b) Just walk away and not sign up to this deal
  c) Remain after all"​
  
  is the opposite of disrespecting. Even a web browser asks if you're sure if you try to close it with more than one tab open.
  
• It wouldn't be a re-run of the first, as the questions would be different. It wouldn't be a start of "best of 3/5/7", or "'neverendum' until you get the answer right", it would simply, and genuinely, be confirmation of the democratic will of the people on a matter of enormous economic and political significance.

So, to all those who say "no second referendum/people's vote" - why not? Why not grasp the opportunity to silence the remoaners once and for all? Why not seize the moral high ground and show just how much rubbish all the claims of misleading leave campaigns and illegal spending and foreign manipulation were? Why not put yourself in the position of being able to say "we were asked twice and we said 'leave' both times, so accept that we are leaving and stop complaining."?

What on earth have you to fear from a second vote?

Best of 3? ..5?

 

[noseall]

Best of 3? ..5?

No need. Now that everyone in the UK, Europe and the rest of the world are pi$$ing themselves laughing at the whole Leave nonsense, no one is going to want the humiliation of another Brexit calamity.

 

[ellal]

There arent any flip flopping quitters, only divisive remainers

So you're now a divisive remainer?

Having been a quitter...

Seems you are indeed a 'flip flopper' !

 

[Notch7]

So you're now a divisive remainer?

Having been a quitter...

Seems you are indeed a 'flip flopper' !

Indeed I am not a flip flopper.

I voted to leave but the deal on the table is not to my liking, so my preference would be a chance to vote on that deal.

That is decisive, not flip flopping.

If the remain camp had done a better job the first time...........

 

[durhamplumber]

No need. Now that everyone in the UK, Europe and the rest of the world are pi$$ing themselves laughing at the whole Leave nonsense, no one is going to want the humiliation of another Brexit calamity.

Lol...until we leave and they jump on the bandwagon.