Shortsighted Diesel Withdrawl

[securespark]

I honestly believe withdrawing Diesel cars from sale is the wrong thing to do.

I think we need to go right back to the invention of Rudolf's engine to understand why it was invented.

I believe cars should continue to be sold with Diesel engines, with a few changes.

They should be tweaked to run on vegetable oil. After all, Herr Diesel designed the engine to use this fuel and emissions are much cleaner than when using petroleum-based Diesel.

This could have a knock-on effect for farmers, growing rapeseed or suchlike.

 

[Brigade77]

There are many reasons why, basically boils down to "doesn't fit the narrative".

 

[IT Minion]

Biofuels are pretty lousy at scale. When you're using leftover oil from chip shops it's great but when you get to growing crops for it then it starts to break down.

 

[Brigade77]

Biofuels are pretty lousy at scale. When you're using leftover oil from chip shops it's great but when you get to growing crops for it then it starts to break down.

Are you crazy. Ethanol is refined from the tears of dolphins. Just plant the seed, watch the seed grow, harvest the seed, et' voila'.

 

[motorbiking]

Car manufacturers would not have made the switch until governments announced the banning of new sales.

 

[wobs]

Bit of an issue for sites with explosive atmospheres, that don't allow eletric cars.

 

[sxturbo]

tbh the whole thing hasnt been thought out very well.

petrol is the cleaner option anyway.

i'm still hoping they can produce hydrogen on a alrge enough scale so that i dont have to buy an electric car.

used electric cars with their dying battery cells isnt really a viable option for the majority of vehicle owners.

 

[wobs]

Biofuels are pretty lousy at scale. When you're using leftover oil from chip shops it's great but when you get to growing crops for it then it starts to break down.

Its complicated.

There is also biofuel from municipal waste, which BMW tried, which had a really small carbon footprint.

 

[SirGalahad]

I honestly believe withdrawing Diesel cars from sale is the wrong thing to do.

I think we need to go right back to the invention of Rudolf's engine to understand why it was invented.

I believe cars should continue to be sold with Diesel engines, with a few changes.

They should be tweaked to run on vegetable oil. After all, Herr Diesel designed the engine to use this fuel and emissions are much cleaner than when using petroleum-based Diesel.

This could have a knock-on effect for farmers, growing rapeseed or suchlike.

If you look at our Governments motivation, they have this messianic desire to prove other country and people wrong- why you get the oft quoted - world beating. Its all show and PR. They want to lead on making the economy more green - a laudable aim but want to force it through so they can have some cheap wins as they fail so badly in other areas of Government.

The ban itself will quietly be extended but it provides for headlines today.

 

[AngleEyes]

It's the amount of land required to grow sufficient biofuel that is the problem.

One of the major concerns surround biofuels is the amount of land that is required to grow enough biomass to meet current energy demands. The quantity of land required is so great that we cannot simultaneously meet our energy needs and grow enough food as well.
http://biofuel.org.uk/land-use.html​

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I believe cars should continue to be sold with Diesel engines, with a few changes.

They should be tweaked to run on vegetable oil. After all, Herr Diesel designed the engine to use this fuel and emissions are much cleaner than when using petroleum-based Diesel.

The older diesel engines can still use vegetable oils, modern ones cannot.

 

[securespark]

There has to be a way of converting a newer Diesel engine to run on veg oil while at the same time making the emissions more enviro-friendly.

As I said, veg oil emissions are kinder than those of regular diesel.

 

[Brigade77]

There has to be a way of converting a newer Diesel engine to run on veg oil while at the same time making the emissions more enviro-friendly.

It would involve changing the whole fuel delivery system + reprogamming the ECU.

It's almost like they wanted to STOP folk running veg oil in diesels . . . .

 

[securespark]

I used to run my Monty Perkins Diesel on veg oil and all I can say is that it passed the emissions test fine, although it wasn't quite so strict then.

 

[sxturbo]

I used to run my Monty Perkins Diesel on veg oil and all I can say is that it passed the emissions test fine, although it wasn't quite so strict then.

Cor, wow, they were a classic,