Should people who refuse a Covid vaccine be denied treatment or charged for it?

[ReganAndCarter]

Yes, you are a whining dissenter and you claimed that

Pot and kettle! You've been whining about Brexit for 4 years now. Now you blindly swallow all government rules and diktats and want to rush unthinking and unquestioning to the vaccination centre with your shirt sleeve rolled up. Then slate people who urge caution rather than rushing in.

But you're really a blue clawed capitalist anyway. You're just desperate to get the economy restarted (no bad thing) so your shares and investments recover. You're a real contradiction. At least be honest.

 

[JohnD]

whining about Brexit for 4 years

Brexers have been whining about the EU for 40 years.

 

[JohnD]

They're crushing any lockdown dissent

Except, strangely, you.

And your buddies

And your favourite websites.

And the Tory MPs you like.

So, obviously, they are not crushing any dissent.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Is any one on this thread saying they should be refused treatment or compelled to take it? My answer is still a no.

No one is suggesting they will pin you down. Just make your life impossible if you don't have the jab. I'm not anti-jab, I'm pro liberty.

Some medical professor thinks we should be forced to carry vaccination passports, or even a bracelet that can't be removed to say you've had it. These are the people influencing government policy and in this case 'informing' impressionable school children. It's on here -

 

[durhamplumber]

I'm pro liberty.

Whatever that means ..it is different for everyone..Some consider it to be "" I will do whatever,whenever I want,,and FŮCK everyone else""..
LIBERTY.
: the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases. b : freedom from physical restraint. c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic (see despot sense 1) control. d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges.

 

[durhamplumber]

I find people's acquiescence very worrying

I find your attitude on many topics deeply worrying.You can hold out for the 100% safe vaccine and risk free life.Forever..We all have the same information available and decide for ourselves..The majority choose the vaccine and see it as being for the greater good..You see it as weak, sheep like etc and as usual give the air of being cosmically superior in intellect and sources of true information...Do not have the vaccine if you feel so strongly...Or do you just like a life of swimming against the tide for your own bizarre satisfaction.

 

[EFLImpudence]

You can hold out for the 100% safe vaccine and risk free life.Forever..We all have the same information available and decide for ourselves.

...but you do not have ALL the information.

Who is instilling the most confidence?
The Government giving Pfeizer total indemnity, or
Pfeizer presumably not willing to release it without.

The majority choose the vaccine and see it as being for the greater good..You see it as weak, sheep like etc and as usual give the air of being cosmically superior in intellect and sources of true information.

As opposed to - not being allowed to disagree with anything.

We all know what is meant by freedom. You are willing to relinquish it.

Do not have the vaccine if you feel so strongly...Or do you just like a life of swimming against the tide for your own bizarre satisfaction.

Devil's advocate and realising there are few satisfactory answers; merely the usual "I believe".

 

[JohnD]

...make your life impossible...

That's exactly what the disease has already done to sixty thousand Britons.

And more to come.

 

[durhamplumber]

but you do not have ALL the information.

I have as much as you.You are another happy to leech off others efforts with no risk to you.

 

[IT Minion]

It's amazing how people who are at a higher risk than 1% of dying (especially men over 50s) are more worried by the Vaccine than the disease. As if they think the chance of them dying from the Vaccine is higher than death or long covid.

 

[SirGalahad]

It's amazing how people who are at a higher risk than 1% of dying (especially men over 50s) are more worried by the Vaccine than the disease. As if they think the chance of them dying from the Vaccine is higher than death or long covid.

Anti-Facters

What is the Union between Brexxers and Anti-vaxxers.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Just heard on the news - this vaccine will only really help the person who is having it. They may still carry and spread the virus - the jab only helps lessen the severity of the disease.

Oh dear. So this thought by anti-vax folk of allowing others to do it so they won't have to kinda falls flat.

 

[SirGalahad]

Just heard on the news - this vaccine will only really help the person who is having it. They may still carry and spread the virus - the jab only helps lessen the severity of the disease.

Oh dear. So this thought by anti-vax folk of allowing others to do it so they won't have to kinda falls flat.

The vaccine does not provide sterilisation of the virus.

 

[sircerebus666]

All you'd need to do is ban them from pubs, gigs, sports grounds, shops and entering the school grounds, and they'll probably change their mind!

If the government use the tracing app to monitor vaccines they will have control over this. A colleague's son got it, so colleague had to stay at home too. He went out into his garden, well, small holding, and within 5 minutes had a phone call asking him why he left home. He explained he has several acres and was still at home. But, they are watching. It would be easy to see if somebody with the app and didn't have a vaccine was near a school, care home, hospital etc. and contact them to ask, WTF are you thinking????

What a load of twaddle

Even if by some miracle they were tracking you like this you just simply leave your phone at home.....

 

[Trazor]

the jab only helps lessen the severity of the disease.

More misinformation....Only 1 in 20,000 who were given the vaccine became seriously ill, whilst 8 others had mild symptoms, the rest did not get the disease. (Pfizer vaccine)