Should people who refuse a Covid vaccine be denied treatment or charged for it?

[Brigadier]

He's on a massive sulk since Trump lost.

Either that or he is posting under yet another moniker.

Perhaps he's in bed with the 'rona.......

 

[noseall]

Perhaps he's in bed with the 'rona.......

Wouldn't that be ironic.

 

[durhamplumber]

Behave yourself. 99.99999999999999% of the population will survive this.

It has killed 0.1% of the UK population so far,so no,they will not all survive to 14 decimal places.(about 1/10,000 of a person)

 

[Notch7]

It has killed 0.1% of the UK population so far.

And that is despite all the efforts this country has taken to reduce infection spread.

It annoys me when people try to dismiss the dangers from Covid when I hear people talking about how they've lost relatives from it.

I heard a chap on the radio yesterday saying his father died from it a month ago, but he says so many people he knows still don't think it's dangerous.

Have the vaccine people,, sure it's a risk but do is the virus

 

[Brigadier]

Wouldn't that be ironic.

As well as comic.

 

[charliegolf]

Instead of thinking, it's 0.1% in 9 months so I'll be fine, think of 109 of the biggest Airbuses going in in 9 months.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Maths is not your strong point.

We've already lost over 60,000 people and it's not over yet.

Neither are you good with figures. Of the 60,000 how many died from Covid, with covid or within 28 days of testing positive with Covid? Many of those people would have died anyway from their co-morbidities. That's why they're classed as dying with Covid or within 28 days of testing positive.

Amazing for someone who's so scathing about 'buffoon' as you call him, but you've allowed yourself to be so frightened by his government that you will unquestioningly swallow the skewed statistics and never ending lockdowns with ridiculous rules enforced by bully-boy tactics. Then line up to have a vaccine that you know nothing about. Bizarre that you now allow yourself to be bamboozled and coerced by 'buffoon'.

In fact many sheep on here have allowed themselves to be so intimidated that they will follow any bizarre, ridiculous laws and take any untried vaccine immediately with no comeback on the manufacturer without stopping to think. But then sheep like to be lead. Is it too much effort to do some research and listen to some INDEPENDENT medical experts who are exposing some uncomfortable truths? It's really important stuff because the draconian rules and lockdowns are ruining the economy and the vaccine is an untried drug that we're putting into our bodies.

 

[charliegolf]

In fact many sheep on here have allowed themselves to be so intimidated that they will follow any bizarre, ridiculous laws and take any untried vaccine immediately with no comeback on the manufacturer without stopping to think. But then sheep like to be lead. It's too much effort to do some research and listen to some INDEPENDENT medical experts who are exposing some uncomfortable truths.[/QUOTE]

I assume from that that you DO NOT accept the intimidation; and WILL NOT wear a mask when mandated; WILL NOT be bound by travel restrictions; WILL not be bound by gathering restrictions and WON'T isolate if infected? Your family must be really looking forward to you popping round.

 

[durhamplumber]

Neither are you good with figures. Of the 60,000 how many died from Covid, with covid or within 28 days of testing positive with Covid? Many of those people would have died anyway from their co-morbidities. That's why they're classed as dying with Covid or within 28 days of testing positive.

Amazing for someone who's so scathing about 'buffoon' as you call him, but you've allowed yourself to be so frightened by his government that you will unquestioningly swallow the skewed statistics and never ending lockdowns with ridiculous rules enforced by bully-boy tactics.

In fact many sheep on here have allowed themselves to be so intimidated that they will follow any bizarre, ridiculous laws and take any untried vaccine immediately with no comeback on the manufacturer without stopping to think. But then sheep like to be lead. It's too much effort to do some research and listen to some INDEPENDENT medical experts who are exposing some uncomfortable truths.

He talks a lot but says nothing definitive.He has concerns,but thinks it is good to give to over 60s,not sure of long term effects...He has said nothing new or enlightening.

 

[Trazor]

Neither are you good with figures. Of the 60,000 how many died from Covid, with covid or within 28 days of testing positive with Covid? Many of those people would have died anyway from their co-morbidities. That's why they're classed as dying with Covid or within 28 days of testing positive.

60,000 is how many EXTRA deaths there have been over the last 9 months, than would normally occur in any other year.

Without Covid 19 we would not have had these extra deaths.

 

[durhamplumber]

Your family must be really looking forward to you popping round.

Lmao....Tip top line!!!

 

[ReganAndCarter]

60,000 is how many EXTRA deaths there have been over the last 9 months, than would normally occur in any other year.

Without Covid 19 we would not have had these extra deaths.

Not what it says here.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Also remember the REAL extra deaths caused by GPs severely restricting services, hospitals limiting treatments eg. cancer therapies, increased suicide, etc, etc.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

In fact many sheep on here have allowed themselves to be so intimidated that they will follow any bizarre, ridiculous laws and take any untried vaccine immediately with no comeback on the manufacturer without stopping to think. But then sheep like to be lead. It's too much effort to do some research and listen to some INDEPENDENT medical experts who are exposing some uncomfortable truths.

I assume from that that you DO NOT accept the intimidation; and WILL NOT wear a mask when mandated; WILL NOT be bound by travel restrictions; WILL not be bound by gathering restrictions and WON'T isolate if infected? Your family must be really looking forward to you popping round.[/QUOTE]

I inform myself and take sensible precautions. Certainly don't get swept along with the crowd or indulge myself in mass hysteria.

 

[Trazor]

Also remember the REAL extra deaths caused by GPs severely restricting services, hospitals limiting treatments eg. cancer therapies, increased suicide, etc, etc.

It's irrelevant what the cause of death was, without the presence of Covid 19 these extra deaths would not have occurred.

 

[JohnD]

increased suicide

what makes you think that suicides have increased?