Signing in when visiting pubs and restaurants

[John the plumber]

Those over 40 are more vulnerable than those below....which was the point Trazor was making.

Are you over 40 John?

Those over 80 are the most vulnerable ,so why the need to put the number at 40?

 

[denso13]

Those over 80 are the most vulnerable

Wrong, what nutjob YouTube channel are you getting that one from?

 

[SirGalahad]

So passports to visit the pub but not to get on public transport.

 

[denso13]

Those over 80 are the most vulnerable

Clinically extremely vulnerable list
You're considered clinically extremely vulnerable if:

• your doctor or GP has classed you as clinically extremely vulnerable because they think you're at high risk of getting seriously ill
• you've been identified as possibly being at high risk through the COVID-19 Population Risk Assessment
• you've had an organ transplant
• you're having chemotherapy or antibody treatment for cancer, including immunotherapy
• you're having an intense course of radiotherapy (radical radiotherapy) for lung cancer
• you're having targeted cancer treatments that can affect the immune system (such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors)
• you have blood or bone marrow cancer (such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma)
• you've had a bone marrow or stem cell transplant in the past 6 months, or are still taking immunosuppressant medicine
• you've been told by a doctor you have a severe lung condition (such as cystic fibrosis, severe asthma or severe COPD)
• you have a condition that means you have a very high risk of getting infections (such as SCID or sickle cell)
• you're taking medicine that makes you much more likely to get infections (such as high doses of steroids or immunosuppressant medicine)
• you have a serious heart condition and are pregnant
• you have a problem with your spleen or your spleen has been removed (splenectomy)
• you're an adult with Down's syndrome
• you're an adult who is having dialysis or has severe (stage 5) long-term kidney disease

 

[SirGalahad]

95% of people who got covid, have gotten better WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION!!! The vaccine MAY prevent you from getting ill!! The vaccine WILL NOT stop you catching the virus... It WILL NOT stop you carrying it! It WILL NOT stop you infecting others! WHY THE TESTS? WHY THE PASSPORT? 95% of people who got Covid, got better WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION!!! WHY THE VACCINE???

Andy

Well the public voted for Bojo and this is what you get. You are looking for logic when there isn't any. Follow the money is probably your best answer.

 

[IT Minion]

Wrong, what nutjob YouTube channel are you getting that one from?

The oldest age groups are the most vulnerable, so (on average) the 80+ are higher risk than the over 70, who are higher risk than over 60 etc. etc. etc.

So drawing a line at any age and saying that those that are over it are more at risk than those below is probably going to be right. Not interesting, but probably right.

John's probably trying to say that the absolute risk for the 40-50 group is fairly low, which it is. Still worryingly high but much less than the 80+ group where something like 20% of those who catch Covid-19 die.

 

[teaboyjim]

Yeah, I meant, with the vaccine the hope is that there won't be so many mutations as the virus will be killed off quicker. I was under the impression that with the vaccine there was less chance of the virus mutating. But as I said maybe I've read it wrong, or the information has changed, it does seem to change on a daily basis

Yes that's how I understand it as well.

 

[teaboyjim]

The oldest age groups are the most vulnerable, so (on average) the 80+ are higher risk than the over 70, who are higher risk than over 60 etc. etc. etc.
So drawing a line at any age and saying that those that are over it are more at risk than those below is probably going to be right. Not interesting, but probably right.
John's probably trying to say that the absolute risk for the 40-50 group is fairly low, which it is. Still worryingly high but much less than the 80+ group where something like 20% of those who catch Covid-19 die.

Do you know what the mortality stats are for people 30 - 40 and 40 - 50?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

I had an argument with my brother-in-law about this today, he was angry/disgusted even that we might have to sign in to pubs and restaurants. I pointed out a holiday that we all went on as two families a couple of years ago, it was all inclusive and every time you either got a drink or food, you had to either give your name and room number or show your wrist band, he was not bothered by that oddly enough?

Your sister (or could be brother - in the strange times in which we live ) married well. B I L is obviously an intelligent, thinking person who can see the risks of handing over your life to state control.

 

[John the plumber]

The oldest age groups are the most vulnerable, so (on average) the 80+ are higher risk than the over 70, who are higher risk than over 60 etc. etc. etc.

So drawing a line at any age and saying that those that are over it are more at risk than those below is probably going to be right. Not interesting, but probably right.

John's probably trying to say that the absolute risk for the 40-50 group is fairly low, which it is. Still worryingly high but much less than the 80+ group where something like 20% of those who catch Covid-19 die.

So what ever is right is not interesting you say?
Sums up everything regarding how easily people have been brainwashed into believing the nonsense the MSM and the government have told them.

Lies =interesting
Facts = not interesting,but probably right.

your words not mine.

 

[John the plumber]

Yes that's how I understand it as well. With vaccines in place there are less contagion and less virus infection so less likelihood that variations will arise so simply put vaccinations equals less contagion and less variations

The vaccine doesn’t stop the transmission of the virus neither does it stop somebody catching the virus.
The MSM and the government have stated this multiple times.
Unfortunately some people on here only hear what they want to hear.

 

[John the plumber]

Do you know what the mortality stats are for people 30 - 40 and 40 - 50? Would like to know them if you do?

Unless someone is over 80 or obese or already has underlying health issues the chances of death from Covid are less than 1%

 

[denso13]

The vaccine doesn’t stop the transmission of the virus neither does it stop somebody catching the virus.

Not completely, no. Just like any other vaccine then, nothing to see here.

 

[teaboyjim]

The vaccine doesn’t stop the transmission of the virus neither does it stop somebody catching the virus.

Does it reduce the "transmissibility" and does it decrease the chances of catching the virus?

 

[denso13]

Does it reduce the "transmissibility" and does it decrease the chances of catching the virus?

John and his friends don't believe the virus is real in the first place unfortunately.