Snoopers charter - Pensioners will have their bank accounts inspected and monitored

[JohnD]

is it just me?

Why didn't you tell people about the little crown on beer glasses?

At least you have one achievement to boast about.

 

[Mottie]

It includes state pension and child benefit.

So not means tested then. What’s the problem?

 

[Mottie]

Why didn't you tell people about the little crown on beer glasses?

At least you have one achievement to boast about.

Why don’t you tell everyone about your tax avoidance with your ISA investments and tax and NI avoidance on your dividend payments instead of keep harping on about others who legally avoid paying tax?

 

[ajohn]

I think some benefits are already means tested in terms of assets. Is extending how that is done really a problem?

The fraud problem in this area has always been the same - the cost of checking thoroughly. As a result it isn't.

 

[SirGalahad]

So not means tested then. What’s the problem?

The assumption you are guilty until proven innocent, why should you have your bank account continiously monitored?

Can I put up a camera in your bedroom and bathroom?

So this will have average normal people being under the spotlight when they have committed no crime.

Where are your papers?

This was Nazi germanys wet dream. Are so lost you want this because its from your Tory party?

 

[SirGalahad]

I think some benefits are already means tested in terms of assets. Is extending how that is done really a problem?

The fraud problem in this area has always been the same - the cost of checking thoroughly. As a result it isn't.

Another pernicious lie about rampamt fraud - there isn't its just a lie for the right wingers to peddle like the lies about Brexit and it would unleash new massive trade deals.

The Government cannot grow the economy so now has to find the weakest to blame.

Politicians are exempt from their accounts being checked.

 

[SirGalahad]

Why don’t you tell everyone about your tax avoidance with your ISA investments and tax and NI avoidance on your dividend payments instead of keep harping on about others who legally avoid paying tax?

What do your kids do?

 

[Roy Bloom]

I thought you had to give specific permission for 'others' to look at your bank account?

Will this law remove the need for that specific permission being needed?

I appreciate that a court order can override the need for permission, but court orders can override lots of things.

 

[SirGalahad]

I thought you had to give specific permission for 'others' to look at your bank account?

Will this law remove the need for that specific permission being needed?

Yes it will be done automatically based on key triggers they say but this is the Tory Government it will be everything and anything.

You buy too much pop and fast food - time we charged you a premium when you visit the doctor next, you damn smoker we don't care we tax you we need to tax you even more.

You must comply, and the wagging dog that is mottie barks his approval.

So I wonder what all those wonderful people who fought in the war for freedom think of this?

 

[JohnD]

the war for freedom

Which war do you have in mind?

 

[motorbiking]

I thought you had to give specific permission for 'others' to look at your bank account?

Will this law remove the need for that specific permission being needed?

I appreciate that a court order can override the need for permission, but court orders can override lots of things.

The DWP already have the power to pull your UK bank accounts as do HMRC. There is also something called a Production Order that can be served by a wide range of authorities. Beyond that there are NPOs that can be served by someone needing some info to pursue justice.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The DWP already have the power to pull your UK bank accounts as do HMRC. There is also something called a Production Order that can be served by a wide range of authorities. Beyond that there are NPOs that can be served by someone needing some info to pursue justice.

I thought they currently need a court order, without your specific permission?
Which I assume would be merely a rubber stamping process.

 

[Mottie]

What do your kids do?

Why, what do yours do?

 

[motorbiking]

I thought they currently need a court order, without your specific permission?
Which I assume would be merely a rubber stamping process.

You're mistaken - not for the first time.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The DWP already have the power to pull your UK bank accounts as do HMRC. There is also something called a Production Order that can be served by a wide range of authorities. Beyond that there are NPOs that can be served by someone needing some info to pursue justice.

On a suspicion basis I believe, not just as a matter of routine