Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

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Just spoken with a russian cyber friend on the front line and asked him what the "Z" meant painted on
the sides of their 50 year old tanks. He lol and said the "Z" just made it easier for other Russians to ID it a s a friendly tank/vehicle.

They did not use an X as that is bad luck over there, lol

In the Iraq attacks he told me the western forces used hi-vis orange sheets but they/russians don't have anything as sophisticated as that.
 
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This caper could well cause one of the biggest refugee crisis’s in Europe Since world war 2

Poland are very concerned
 
The Humanitarian said:
I am no armchair warrior.
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Like I said all things are possible but the one you mentioned is rather far fetched and the reasoning sketchy.

Also comments about Trump who appeared to think that current relationship between Russia and the USA is a bit daft and expensive. You must remember the comments about Russia helping to get him elected. He may have had different ideas. It's hard to say. Biden has made the hawks and their sidekicks extremely happy by increasing the defence budget, I suspect Trump would rather cut it and get more correct contributions and additions to NATO via it's members.
 
ajohn said:
Anything can happen but some of your posts swing in direction. I am wonder with this one if you are talking to aliens or fairies at the bottom of your garden or if in a flat hear voices .
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he’s 5
 
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transam said:
This caper could well cause one of the biggest refugee crisis’s in Europe Since world war 2

Poland are very concerned
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A distinct possibility but one I'm almost certain will not happen. The reasoning behind this is in my previous posts. IE, the areas controlled by Russian people have massive majority of pro-Russians but the other areas are massively pro Ukraine/West. Therefore people will stay put and are not on the breadline.
 
C4 to be different had a Chinese diplomat on to see what he thought. He was sympathetic. Pointed out that NATO is not really a defensive group any more which makes the Russian position understandable. Seems China is not keen on this aspect either. I can see that point. If a war is wanted get NATO to agree. If they don't use some cooked up intelligence report and use that in instead. I don't think Blare on this aspect I think backed by the UK because it was. Tory agreed too. He seems to think having any eastern europe country in it is not a good idea.

His solution was interesting. If Ukraine declares itself as a neutral country all problems are solved. Some have
Six EU member states, all who have declared their non-alignment with military alliances, are not NATO members: Austria, Cyprus, Finland, Ireland, Malta, and Sweden. Additionally, Switzerland, which is surrounded by the EU, has also maintained their neutrality by remaining a non-EU-member.

Nothing in this area prevents relationships with the EU even in Switzerland's case. Seems the Swizz have nuclear bunkers for their entire population. Probably a cheaper overall option. ;) We have a number too but not for all that many people. They are probably still scattered around the country but not for public use.

In terms of nukes once involved you become a target so there are 2 ways of looking at it. Take Poland for instance which may not have happened. The USA wanted to place a missile defence system there they say to protect from Iranian missiles. Given that something starts up these would be knocked out first. There is a NATO set up same thing goes with that. On top of this are subs with them cruising about anyway and Russia comes up with a missile that can be sent in either direction. The whole thing is MAD.

The other aspect is Ukraine. This area is why NATO troops are unlikely to get involved. The same would probably happen if one in NATO was involved.
 
The Humanitarian said:
A distinct possibility but one I'm almost certain will not happen. The reasoning behind this is in my previous posts. IE, the areas controlled by Russian people have massive majority of pro-Russians but the other areas are massively pro Ukraine/West. Therefore people will stay put and are not on the breadline.
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if a full scale invasion starts all out war than there will
Be refugees

Poland is already preparing for that eventuality
 
Well it’s kicked off now

Russians have invaded ;)

and it’s on a thursday
 
The Humanitarian said:
A distinct possibility but one I'm almost certain will not happen. The reasoning behind this is in my previous posts. IE, the areas controlled by Russian people have massive majority of pro-Russians but the other areas are massively pro Ukraine/West. Therefore people will stay put and are not on the breadline.
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:rolleyes:

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

what’s yer Russian source saying ?
 
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Reports from Kiev

roads jammed with people trying to leave

5 Ukrainian planes and a helecopter shot down ? Missile attack in a Ukraine military base
 
The Humanitarian said:
Skim through the rubbish we've been fed and then the last two short paragraphs - thanks to the Guardian for posting the true facts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/03/ukraine-russia-fake-attack-video-us-claims

See below the three short paragraphs I am referring to, just what I have been thinking for a while.

On Thursday, Maliar told the Guardian she had checked that claim with Ukrainian intelligence agencies, which had their own sources.

“It simply wasn’t true. We found no information to back this up, we did not see any blood supplies moved to the front or even in the civilian hospitals around the front,” she said, in an interview at a military airfield at Boryspil, outside Kyiv.

“It’s really important to look at the sources. These sources were anonymous, and I don’t think it’s right to use anonymous sources that cannot be checked,” she said.


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There you have it - for weeks the west/usa chatting about false flag attacks are "imminent" and went as far as removing some people from the USA ad uk embassies
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:ROFLMAO:

Oh dear:rolleyes:

looks like some one bought into the Russian BS and propaganda
 
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