Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

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My sauce :)sneaky:) in Russia code name

igor bald shevick

tells me that 4 Eastern European states have invoked article 4 of the nato treaty

Poland has done it before in 2014

and Turkey most recently
 
Predicted in 2016
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I believe that's how a GiF works.

It's easy enough to do with a video editor. The jumps are hard to get round. ;) I can see ways around that and other aspects but best not mention them.

C4 might show the video if it was sent to them but I suspect they would see through it immediately. They didn't see through a staged gas attack in Syria that was sent to them and I strongly suspect staged rescuing of young kids miraculously surviving in collapsed buildings. Once they have shown one have to wonder about others.
 
It's easy enough to do with a video editor. The jumps are hard to get round. ;) I can see ways around that and other aspects but best not mention them.

C4 might show the video if it was sent to them but I suspect they would see through it immediately. They didn't see through a staged gas attack in Syria that was sent to them and I strongly suspect staged rescuing of young kids miraculously surviving in collapsed buildings. Once they have shown one have to wonder about others.

Yeah, but these clips are almost always taken on a camera phone and the user simply uploads them straight away, looped for convenience.

Filtering the information will be very difficult and it'll be easy to become swamped over the next few weeks. Hardly any other news will make itself heard above the maelstrom and every article will have its own perspective:
The west stood back and watched in Syria – it must not do the same in Ukraine | Hamish de Bretton-Gordon | The Guardian
We have to avoid any knee-jerk reactions, such as sending in UK fighters as that eejit David Davis is suggesting, and keep our sh*t together.
 
I've seen about 50 clips of so-called different attacks.
This is the only one that was released by Sky after they had done their best to verify.

As I said many other videos but none verified.

Sky reports live from the city and every so often n explosion in the distance

By all news reports atm all attacks are on military sites inc command and control.

I've seen a video of Ukrainian tanks having a firefight with Russian tanks but not verified so wont post.

I blame the west for beig weak and allowing the bully to do this. Even now, I fear our PM
spouting empty threats and he wont hit Putin hard

I do not want boots on the ground as it is too late for that

Another problem Ukriane faces now is how to supply them as the airspace is Putins.

I hope the Ukrainian leader does not do what the afghgan leader did.
 
I suspect if it’s an all out no holds barred invasion

that the military in Ukraine will collapse quite quickly ??

the place is full of Russians and Russian supporters

basically Ukraine as an independent state ( as we know it)

is finished

sanctions will have no real effect in Russia and they carry on as usual
 
Anyone heard from Jeremy Corbyn???

Funnily enough not long ago some one was saying that European security is a mess and needs some discussion. It was a labour person. I don't think there is an answer. Armageddon does not prevent some countries interfering with others in military ways when they feel like it when they aren't in the same club. The can be interfered with in other ways as well.

Now we have a post that the UK in the EU would make a difference - really?

;) I live in a great place for Armageddon. Some one wrote a book once something like 50mtonne 5,000ft above B'ham. For one reason or the other a large portion of the W.Mids becomes unusable. London - no leave it alone as it doesn't make sense to chop of a countries head. This is what happened in Japan. ;) Not that much is made in Brum now though.
 
Something suspicious with this user. Why the obsessive interest in this war compared to hardly anything else other than political pot stirring?

Possibly another facet from the Himmy trilogy?
 
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