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Odds said:
You're a bloody menace to those poor dolphins. They're always so pleased to see us...look at his happy face.
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How so?

IT Minion said:
That looks like a Sunseeker 95? Its not a super yacht, they sell for around $10 million new I think?

I thought the 100 was brand new.
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"LADY M is a 29.85 m Motor Yacht, built in the United Kingdom by Sunseeker and delivered in 2024. She is one of 14 100 Yacht models."

Easy to spot as she has 100 badge on the side. If you go to Poole Marina there are a few 95s as well. Not my cup of tea or budget.
 
The focus on fuel cost is a bit of a red herring, isn't the rule of thumb that maintenance costs are around 10% of the new price? So north of a million a year for either of your budget yacht suggestions?
 
Spoken like a man, who has considered buying a motor boat :LOL:

Its correct, even with a more modest budget of say under £1M, a Gran Tourismo 45 is going to cost:
- 60k a year in depreciation
- 8-10k a year in maintenance
- 3-6k in insurance, depending on your qualifications
- 12k a year in mooring fees (assuming you want 24hr walk on access in say the solent)
- 50 hrs cruising at an avg of 70l per hour - £1,100 in marine diesel.

not much change from £100k

It's why so many boats never go out of the marina. That and the owners cannot drive them for toffee.

But that 6 engine wa**kpanzer will consume 110 litres per engine/per hour assuming they are not racing tuned (they probably are). Petrol on the fuel pontoon say £1.80 a litre - ouch. Then each engine will need a £1500 service annually.
 
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Would make a very sensible home if you didn't mind the depreciation.
 
motorbiking said:
Spoken like a man, who has considered buying a motor boat :LOL:

Its correct, even with a more modest budget of say under £1M, a Gran Tourismo 45 is going to cost:
- 60k a year in depreciation
- 8-10k a year in maintenance
- 3-6k in insurance, depending on your qualifications
- 12k a year in mooring fees (assuming you want 24hr walk on access in say the solent)
- 50 hrs cruising at an avg of 70l per hour - £1,100 in marine diesel.

not much change from £100k

It's why so many boats never go out of the marina. That and the owners cannot drive them for toffee.

But that 6 engine wa**kpanzer will consume 110 litres per engine/per hour assuming they are not racing tuned (they probably are). Petrol on the fuel pontoon say £1.80 a litre - ouch. Then each engine will need a £1500 service annually.
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Sailing yacht, but it'd be like having a second mortgage even for a more sensible 30" 20+ year old boat.
 
motorbiking said:
Would make a very sensible home if you didn't mind the depreciation.
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If you can afford half a mil for the purchase and first year maintenance then i don't think depreciation is top of your list...not sure about 20 people in the lounge...where will the cushions sit? maybe a few more on deck to make it look really homey. The walnut fittings are very nice though.
 
But the sound travels through the water as it motors along, yes? It's believed the noise interferes with whales sonar, confusing their calls, leaving them stranded on the beach, like those Orcas last week in Scotland.
 
motorbiking said:
keep researching. Take account of the effect of sound over water (amplifies it) and the impact of amplitude on sound travelling through water (absorbs it). Then consider that the thing making the noise was out of the water.
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Water 'absorbs' sound much less than air. :rolleyes:
If a part of the boat was in the water, the sound will have been transmitted to the water. :rolleyes:
 
Odds said:
But the sound travels through the water as it motors along, yes? It's believed the noise interferes with whales sonar, confusing their calls, leaving them stranded on the beach, like those Orcas last week in Scotland.
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So when Motorbiking's not killing arabs he's confusing whales. How does he sleep at night?
 
IT Minion said:
Sailing yacht, but it'd be like having a second mortgage even for a more sensible 30" 20+ year old boat.
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It can be a false economy going too small, unless you are just after a day sailer. A 34-36fter will cope well in a f5 and survive an F6-8. If you go for some 28-30fter family cruiser, you simply won’t enjoy it in an f5 gusting 6. Purchase and running costs will also be similar.

36 ft Bavaria cruiser around 2002-2006 will sell for around £30-45k. And cost you 3-4K a year in maintenance and on a swing mooring you might get change from 4-5k. Depreciation will be minimal at that age
 
Odds said:
But the sound travels through the water as it motors along, yes? It's believed the noise interferes with whales sonar, confusing their calls, leaving them stranded on the beach, like those Orcas last week in Scotland.
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My experience of both is they like to use sailing boats to hunt with. Though I haven’t come across orcas in the U.K.

Plenty of whales when sailing in the Atlantic
 
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