super charger & turbo?

[nickso]

Turbo charger works off exhaust gas which is built up to a certain pressure (psi/bar) then a wastegate opens and spins the turbo at speeds of up- to 150,000rps sucking more air into the engine.
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thats not how a turbocharged engine works at all.

you've got all the right components, care to rearrange them into a working scenario?

 

[nickso]

essentially supercharger delivers power low end, it is driven off the engine abit like your p/s pump/alternator.
but at higher speeds actually have a more negative impact, thats why they normally turn off at higher speeds on most bigger cars.

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while im at it, thats not really how a supercharger works either but you are bit closer with this one.

 

[Softus]

thats not how a turbocharged engine works at all.

Give him a break, nickso. At least he got the units of pressure right.

 

[nickso]

thats not how a turbocharged engine works at all.

Give him a break, nickso. At least he got the units of pressure right.

yes he chose two

i just noticed he said the turbo spins at 150,000 revs per second, i dont believe thats right either.

 

[Softus]

Oh I'm quite sure that it does spin.

 

[nickso]

Oh I'm quite sure that it does spin.

yes yes smartarse

 

[GnzYza]

Turbo charger works off exhaust gas which is built up to a certain pressure (psi/bar) then a wastegate opens and spins the turbo at speeds of up- to 150,000rps sucking more air into the engine.
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thats not how a turbocharged engine works at all.

you've got all the right components, care to rearrange them into a working scenario?

Thats not ALL the components but a few which i mentioned.
ok, i suppose i should of looked closer at what i was writing, to correct my terminology, wastegates are actually held shut until a desired or preset pressure is reached then gate progressively opens to allow axhaust gas to bypass the turbine. I wanted to keep things simple you see and not go into too much detail. Also just to add that turbines can reach speeds of 150k, and i did use UPTO as not all will but the max rpm for the new vw turbo charger is 220k just for example, and you know i meant rpm.
i used psi/bar because its the most common and if you want can measure in Kpa, which correct me if im wrong 100 kpa=1bar/14.7PSI, but i prefer PSI.
hope that clarifies things for the post and gives you something to read while you on your tea break

 

[GnzYza]

essentially supercharger delivers power low end, it is driven off the engine abit like your p/s pump/alternator.
but at higher speeds actually have a more negative impact, thats why they normally turn off at higher speeds on most bigger cars.

.

while im at it, thats not really how a supercharger works either but you are bit closer with this one.

I wasn't given a complex explanation, just loosely explaining, if i was to go into detail the first thing i would correct is that both are supercharges as a supercharger is anything that pressurises the intake above atmospheric pressure, different being Turbo's run off FREE exhaust gas, and superchargers or Crank Driven chargers are driven off the CRANK-thus one drawback is the xtra power you make some goes back into driving the device.

 

[Softus]

Could you do me favour and stop telling people who already know how super- and turbo-chargers how you think they work in "simple terms" that are actually the wrong terms, riddled with poor spelling, and then having to correct yourself, and getting it wrong again, with yet more poor spelling?

Thanks.

 

[nickso]

Turbo charger works off exhaust gas which is built up to a certain pressure (psi/bar) then a wastegate opens and spins the turbo at speeds of up- to 150,000rps sucking more air into the engine.
.

thats not how a turbocharged engine works at all.

you've got all the right components, care to rearrange them into a working scenario?

Thats not ALL the components but a few which i mentioned.
ok, i suppose i should of looked closer at what i was writing, to correct my terminology, wastegates are actually held shut until a desired or preset pressure is reached then gate progressively opens to allow axhaust gas to bypass the turbine. I wanted to keep things simple you see and not go into too much detail. Also just to add that turbines can reach speeds of 150k, and i did use UPTO as not all will but the max rpm for the new vw turbo charger is 220k just for example, and you know i meant rpm.
i used psi/bar because its the most common and if you want can measure in Kpa, which correct me if im wrong 100 kpa=1bar/14.7PSI, but i prefer PSI.
hope that clarifies things for the post and gives you something to read while you on your tea break

hurrah, i like it when people actually not morons and do actually know what they are on about. a spectacular recovery sir.

 

[nickso]

essentially supercharger delivers power low end, it is driven off the engine abit like your p/s pump/alternator.
but at higher speeds actually have a more negative impact, thats why they normally turn off at higher speeds on most bigger cars.

.

while im at it, thats not really how a supercharger works either but you are bit closer with this one.

I wasn't given a complex explanation, just loosely explaining, if i was to go into detail the first thing i would correct is that both are supercharges as a supercharger is anything that pressurises the intake above atmospheric pressure, different being Turbo's run off FREE exhaust gas, and superchargers or Crank Driven chargers are driven off the CRANK-thus one drawback is the xtra power you make some goes back into driving the device.

still a bit off but better. b+

 

[nickso]

Could you do me favour and stop telling people who already know how super- and turbo-chargers how you think they work in "simple terms" that are actually the wrong terms, riddled with poor spelling, and then having to correct yourself, and getting it wrong again, with yet more poor spelling?

Thanks.

softus is altogether harder to please though

 

[GnzYza]

Could you do me favour and stop telling people who already know how super- and turbo-chargers how you think they work in "simple terms" that are actually the wrong terms, riddled with poor spelling, and then having to correct yourself, and getting it wrong again, with yet more poor spelling?

Thanks.

you can talk buddy, read your post? and people dont know how they work thats why they're asking you foolish boy.
and anyway this was a reply to nickso who pointed out correctly the mistake which i thought i would correct for the benefit of this post.
So

 

[GnzYza]

quote]

Thats not ALL the components but a few which i mentioned.
ok, i suppose i should of looked closer at what i was writing, to correct my terminology, wastegates are actually held shut until a desired or preset pressure is reached then gate progressively opens to allow axhaust gas to bypass the turbine. I wanted to keep things simple you see and not go into too much detail. Also just to add that turbines can reach speeds of 150k, and i did use UPTO as not all will but the max rpm for the new vw turbo charger is 220k just for example, and you know i meant rpm.
i used psi/bar because its the most common and if you want can measure in Kpa, which correct me if im wrong 100 kpa=1bar/14.7PSI, but i prefer PSI.
hope that clarifies things for the post and gives you something to read while you on your tea break [/quote]

hurrah, i like it when people actually not morons and do actually know what they are on about. a spectacular recovery sir.[/quote]

Do i have your seal of approval on the above
please explain my failed attempt in explaining supercharging?

 

[davedasave]

have a look at this, great diagrams

turbo - http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo1.htm

super - http://auto.howstuffworks.com/supercharger.htm