The Irish border smokescreen

[Bodd]

Semi-skilled and unskilled jobs.
Say no more.

Don't get that

 

[Bodd]

So your question is "Why would a UK government protect workers' rights?"

This is actually has the same answer as the question "why would a UK government want to have good healthcare?"

and

"Why would a UK government want to have Health and Safety Standards?"

and

"Why would a UK government want to control crime, road death, and fire deaths?"

Answer those questions please.

This moment we are in the EU. The UK or the EU do nothing to protect workers rights.

Health and safety is just a ball catching exercise. Go onto a few sites in London in winter and see the conditions workers have to work under

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Don't get that

It is easy, now, more or less anywhere, to walk into unskilled or semi-skilled jobs.

The majority of employment now is not that kind of work.

 

[Bodd]

It is easy, now, more or less anywhere, to walk into unskilled or semi-skilled jobs.

The majority of employment now is not that kind of work.

Again go onto a building site in London and see how many unskilled workers there are.

 

[JohnD]

... The UK … do nothing to protect workers rights.

To be precise, the UK government does nothing to protect workers rights.

To be even more precise, the current UK Tory government does nothing to protect workers rights.

Tell me why you think the UK has so many unregulated Zero Hours Contracts, and the majority of European countries don't.

Can you think who is responsible for UK Employment regulations?

I'll give you a clue. I have already mentioned them in this post.

But if that's the way you want things to be, keep voting for them. And stop moaning about what they do (and about what they don't do)

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

It is easy, now, more or less anywhere, to walk into unskilled or semi-skilled jobs.

The majority of employment now is not that kind of work.

Again go onto a building site in London and see how many unskilled workers there are.

Are you countering my argument or reinforcing it?
I.e. does your comment disprove my comment, or reinforce it?

 

[Bodd]

To be precise, the UK government does nothing to protect workers rights.


But if that's the way you want things to be, keep voting for them. And stop moaning )

I didn't I voted Ukip and I got sagged off for it

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

I voted Ukip

Despite telling us that you wanted a middle-of-the-road government.

 

[Bodd]

Are you countering my argument or reinforcing it?
I.e. does your comment disprove my comment, or reinforce it?

Maybe both.
Skilled jobs are being filled by unskilled labour. If you don't like the conditions you can bugger off

Would you get this in the white collor work place

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Skilled jobs are being filled by unskilled labour.

How does that work? By de-skilling the job?

Would you get this in the white collor work place

If you can de-skill a manual job it would probably be easier in a white-collar environment. Think of computer aided/controlled algorithms.
(Telephone answering machines as a very simple example, etc)

 

[ellal]

So why are the EU in Arms about the US putting Tarriffs on Steel etc etc but feel it's OK to put tarrifs on our goods and services towards the UK

You just don't get it do you!

If the UK remains in the single market after brexit, there are no tariffs - a solution the EU want.

If there is no deal, then reciprocal tariffs (under WTO rules) are imposed if the UK leaves the single market.
The EU will have no choice in the matter, even though they have no wish to do so.

It is the UK making the decision whether to stay or leave the single market
The UK is leaving the EU, not the EU forcing the UK out.!

 

[Bodd]

How does that work? By de-skilling the job?

If you can de-skill a manual job it would probably be easier in a white-collar environment. Think of computer aided/controlled algorithms.
(Telephone answering machines as a very simple example, etc)

Im not sure government the EU or big businesses give a hoot or a toot about workers rights unless it suits them.

It's down to the company concerned.

Would apple get the best of the best if they had offer crap work and pay conditions. Would they be saying if you don't like it you can lump it. NO
Because they care about thir product.

To many industries in this country don't care for the patient the product or the service. So they care not for the worker.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Im not sure government the EU or big businesses give a hoot or a toot about workers rights unless it suits them.

It's down to the company concerned.

Would apple get the best of the best if they had offer crap work and pay conditions. Would they be saying if you don't like it you can lump it. NO
Because they care about thir product.

To many industries in this country don't care for the patient the product or the service. So they care not for the worker.

I fear that you are mixing and matching comments and sustainability issues for unskilled and semi-skilled to other skilled or highly skilled vocations.

You cannot mix and match expectations for one labour market to another.
You are also confusing national or international policies for employment to individual companies approach to employment.
It is not that simplistic.

 

[ellal]

Tell me why you think the UK has so many unregulated Zero Hours Contracts, and the majority of European countries don't.

Brexiteers just don't get the fact that the majority of problems in the UK are self inflicted, not imposed on us by the EU.

So for example how come we have massive tuitions fees and an education privatisation scheme whilst most of the EU does not?
And how come we have failing public services (because of outsourcing / privatisation) whilst most of the EU does not?

We have some of the worst welfare/pension benefits in the EU because unlike the UK they don't put as much emphasis on profits before people!

These are choices made by the UK government, not the EU.

 

[Bodd]

Despite telling us that you wanted a middle-of-the-road government.

I voted Ukip because there was no one else to vote for. It was a wasted vote.

But get me not wrong if Ukip had a decent chance of getting into government I would vote for them