The man is a total nutter

[bernardgreen]

There is of course the valuable intellignce that can be obtained from a captured terrorist. Since one of the driving aims is to die in the service of the ideoology that radicalised them being captured alive may be seen as a failure to achieve total sucess. It is likely that as it is planned that they will die then they will have had little if any training in resisting interrogation methods.

That said if putting them immediately out of action will save other lives at the time then yes shoot to put them totally out of action.

 

[securespark]

I can see Corbyn's POV.

Last time there was a STK policy, an innocent Brazilian sparky lost his life.

 

[handyjack]

I can see Corbyn's POV.

Last time there was a STK policy, an innocent Brazilian sparky lost his life.

There still is and always has been a shoot to kill policy.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Corbyn comes out against 'shoot to kill' in UK after Paris attacks

Remember he's a lefty. Lefty politicians have blood on their hands for flooding Europe with barbarians. Lefties are the real enemy.

Never underestimate how dangerously destructive or just dangerously stupid the socialists and their followers are.

Only politician talking any sense on TV about the latest ROP attack was Nige yesterday.

 

[Whitespirit66]

 

[Bosswhite]

I can see Corbyn's POV.

Last time there was a STK policy, an innocent Brazilian sparky lost his life.

Not forgetting the Current Ongoing Court Case that has lasted 43 Years, (Falls Road) .

 

[WalksWithTurkeys]

I can see Corbyn's POV.

Last time there was a STK policy, an innocent Brazilian sparky lost his life.

There are variations on the shoot to kill. A UK copper is currently allowed to kill someone in self defence, or to save someone else's life if they are being attacked, but reasonable force must be used. So taking out a gunmen shooting civilians would be in order. In the case of the Brazilian, it was utter incompetence. The police who shot him were fed false information. They were told he had a suicide bomb, so they took him out to prevent him detonating it. They need to put in processes such that you cannot take someone out unless you are certain the information is correct.

In Northern Ireland they are said to have had a policy of shooting dead terrorist suspects without warning, and while they were not actively engaged in a terrorist act.

Corbyn is a nut job. It is hard to know what he means, does he oppose the first case, or the second case? He won't last long.

 

[JBR]

Listen to the interviewer trying (unsuccessfully) to put words into Farage's mouth.
Of course, we are all aware of the BBC's left wing bias, so it didn't come as any surprise to me.

 

[WalksWithTurkeys]

Listen to the interviewer trying (unsuccessfully) to put words into Farage's mouth.
Of course, we are all aware of the BBC's left wing bias, so it didn't come as any surprise to me.

They certainly do have an anti UKIP bias, and swallow the "UKIP are racists" line, which I do not, and nor do lots of people I know. Farage is unsuitable to lead the country, in my view, as he is too divisive, but he does not deserve the flak he gets, then again it's a nice way to avoid addressing the issues isn't it?

 

[JBR]

Listen to the interviewer trying (unsuccessfully) to put words into Farage's mouth.
Of course, we are all aware of the BBC's left wing bias, so it didn't come as any surprise to me.

They certainly do have an anti UKIP bias, and swallow the "UKIP are racists" line, which I do not, and nor do lots of people I know. Farage is unsuitable to lead the country, in my view, as he is too divisive, but he does not deserve the flak he gets, then again it's a nice way to avoid addressing the issues isn't it?

I believe he is strong enough and intelligent enough to run the country, given the chance. Unfortunately, his party is not (yet?) strong enough or established enough, party due to our FPTP electoral system.
Mind you, the Labour party started with nothing at the beginning of the 20th century. Then, of course, there was a glaring need for someone to represent and support the working classes, so the party flourished.
I believe there is presently a glaring need for someone to represent and support ALL of the ordinary Britons, so who knows.

 

[WalksWithTurkeys]

UKIP have been playing the "we support ordinary people unlike the others" card for years. They can only get away with it for so long. And they are no different from the rest. They are often very disorganised, due in part to lack of experience as you say. And Farage is rather dictatorial. They've forced an EU vote, that's good.

 

[breadnbutter]

farage talks alot of sense. unfortunately there powers that be have an agenda, so you can say things that are right and correct ,but its not going to stop whats comming.

 

[JBR]

UKIP have been playing the "we support ordinary people unlike the others" card for years. They can only get away with it for so long. And they are no different from the rest. They are often very disorganised, due in part to lack of experience as you say. And Farage is rather dictatorial. They've forced an EU vote, that's good.

How can you say that they are no different to the rest?
How do you know? They have never been in power and have only one MP.

 

[WalksWithTurkeys]

UKIP have been playing the "we support ordinary people unlike the others" card for years. They can only get away with it for so long. And they are no different from the rest. They are often very disorganised, due in part to lack of experience as you say. And Farage is rather dictatorial. They've forced an EU vote, that's good.

How can you say that they are no different to the rest?
How do you know? They have never been in power and have only one MP.

They had loads of Euro MPs, and there's been a fair whiff around some of their affairs, especially expenses. Remember Farage abusing von Rumpuy? What a disgusting piece of abusive behaviour, engaging in personal insults, I mean. And we've seen lots of public bickering from UKIP. What are their policies? Farage openly says previous election manifestos were pants. I mean, a serious party? I voted for them in the EU elections, as did my neighbours, but that election did not matter did it? UKIP is a way for ordinary people to show their contempt for the EU, and the contempt that the EU shows for us.

 

[hi1]

He hasn't actually said hes against a shoot to kill policy what he has said is that those doing the shooting must still meet the current criteria for deciding to shoot someone. If you are going to shoot someone then the likely outcome is that the person shot will be fatally injured that's the nature of the tool that is being used for the task, I know of no conventional weapon that is advertised as a shoot to wound device. I did hear some stupid bitch on radio 4 who was seriously suggesting that the police could shoot the weapon from the nasty persons hand and all would be well. Judging by the amount of vitrol that corbyn is attracting he must have some seriously worried.