The Next General Election

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If the rest of us wanted an idiot like Truss, or a liar like Johnson, that is what we might end up with. They are not the same. If you think they are....
I agree with that but on the other hand do you want a leader who doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman.
 
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People are fed up with the Tories, but are too scared to vote labour. I see a Tory victory (not a fact, just an opinion)

I'm not quite as confident but I hope they get in, if they do it will be with the narrowest of majorities.

Assuming the economy keeps on improving the NHS is going to be a major battlefield, yet if people think Labour will improve that look at Wales.

 
I'm not quite as confident but I hope they get in, if they do it will be with the narrowest of majorities.

Assuming the economy keeps on improving the NHS is going to be a major battlefield, yet if people think Labour will improve that look at Wales.

You just want more of the same though.

If Boris esque politics is your style, then it's no surprise

Economy keeps on improving . Yh right. Labour killed that, didn't they
 
I have been dismayed by the Labour responses to the crisis in the Asylum process, and to the Brexit position.
Not some specific policies, because some are entirely understandable, .e.g. the continuing use of the barges, etc.
When pressed Labour (Kinnock) have admitted that they would be obliged to continue use of the barges until they could end the practice asap. "We are where we are. We can't wave a magic wand and introduce soemething else immediately."

They've also said they would seek to process the asylum seekers quicker, and seek return agreements with other countries.
But I'm not sure they're going far enough.

Although I've recently had another thought.
Labour have said they will make Brexit work, rather than seek to reverse Brexit, even though popular opinion has clearly shifted substantially.
I saw a comment from a political commentator, that suggested that this is a deliberate ploy to avoid being labelled "Brussels lover", "EU Sympathiser", etc. by the Tories.

I wonder if Labour are making the same ploy over the asykum seekers crisis as they are over Brexit.
Labour want power and see the best way is to parrot and copy tory policies with a hint of socialism. They did that with Blair and ironically it was bringing in the human rights act to the fullest extent possible plus open ended eu migration that were came to pi*s off his floating voters. Better to work with lib dems and bring in PR to stop the endless cycle of elective dictatorships. Even Farage would get in under PR.

Blup
 
I agree with that but on the other hand do you want a leader who doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman.
He knows the difference but has to cast a few scraps to the left of his party

Blup
 
The rapidly decomposing Conservative administration is in a strange position. As long as Keir Starmer continues his strategy of not saying anything much about anything in particular, and isn’t outed as the true identity of the Zodiac killer or the man behind the Crazy Frog, it’s almost certain the Labour party will win the next election, even though Starmer’s actual positions on the burning ethical issues of the day increasingly resemble a series of incomprehensible smears on a toilet window. Keir Starmer is a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing, but he isn’t accompanied by any sound and fury, just by some rustling and the smell of a Febreze car air freshener.

In turn, the Conservative party, wrecking as much of Britain as possible before its ousting, is now a furious mangy fox, somehow shut inside a vacant Dorset holiday let, ruining the sofa, the spare bedding and the dusty collection of DVDs of Richard Curtis movies and Ricky Gervais standup specials, before the nice lady from the agency arrives on Monday morning and sets it free, retching in horror at the stench and filth.

In the time until their electoral immolation, the Conservatives’ strategy seems to be to propose policies that are either unworkable at best, or at worst, illegal, to outrage liberals, cause conflict, and create an easily scapegoated class of lawyers and do-gooders, in the hope that the fractious environment this fosters might enable them, somehow, to cling to power. It can only be a matter of time before the Conservatives suggest public castration is a good idea, and that the severed genitalia of asylum seekers should be flung to swans, simply so that Lee Anderson could call anyone who objected a woke snowflake on GB News.


Stewart Lee@the Adgrunia
 
He knows the difference but has to cast a few scraps to the left of his party

Blup
I always thought that Keir was fence sitting, but as in the OP, Keir has to be careful to not provide ludicrous allegations to the aggressive and disingenuous Tories.
Imagine the allegations that the likes of Lee Anderson will come out with.
Such as that Vinty has already started.
 
The rapidly decomposing Conservative administration is in a strange position. As long as Keir Starmer continues his strategy of not saying anything much about anything in particular, and isn’t outed as the true identity of the Zodiac killer or the man behind the Crazy Frog, it’s almost certain the Labour party will win the next election, even though Starmer’s actual positions on the burning ethical issues of the day increasingly resemble a series of incomprehensible smears on a toilet window. Keir Starmer is a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing, but he isn’t accompanied by any sound and fury, just by some rustling and the smell of a Febreze car air freshener.

In turn, the Conservative party, wrecking as much of Britain as possible before its ousting, is now a furious mangy fox, somehow shut inside a vacant Dorset holiday let, ruining the sofa, the spare bedding and the dusty collection of DVDs of Richard Curtis movies and Ricky Gervais standup specials, before the nice lady from the agency arrives on Monday morning and sets it free, retching in horror at the stench and filth.

In the time until their electoral immolation, the Conservatives’ strategy seems to be to propose policies that are either unworkable at best, or at worst, illegal, to outrage liberals, cause conflict, and create an easily scapegoated class of lawyers and do-gooders, in the hope that the fractious environment this fosters might enable them, somehow, to cling to power. It can only be a matter of time before the Conservatives suggest public castration is a good idea, and that the severed genitalia of asylum seekers should be flung to swans, simply so that Lee Anderson could call anyone who objected a woke snowflake on GB News.


Stewart Lee@the Adgrunia
An erudite way of saying what I just said.
 
He knows the difference but has to cast a few scraps to the left of his party

Blup
Does that mean he'll shutdown all this nonsense about gender appropriation.
Will he alter the school curriculum to let children grow up to be children again instead of having their heads turned by identifying which sexual deviant they might be?
 
Does that mean he'll shutdown all this nonsense about gender appropriation.
Will he alter the school curriculum to let children grow up to be children again instead of having their heads turned by identifying which sexual deviant they might be?
It means he won't provide disingenuous Tories with wild and untrue allegations.
Rather like the sort of allegations that are evident in here from the various culprits,
If I say I don't agree with hanging I'd be accused of being a rapist apologist. Such is the way of the likes of Lee Anderson and others of his ilk.
 
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