The NHS does not belong to doctors.

[Tigercubrider]

I have never been asked for ID in hospital or at the dr's. I have two chronic conditions. I had to apply for my EHIC when I went on holiday, and it has now expired.

 

[Ihavenojob]

You have to register at a GP's practice, you will need proof for that, and after you're registered you don't have to show any ID , and at an A&E dept they ask for your name & address and you will come up on their records if you are registered at a GP's practice.

 

[SirGalahad]

It's the national health service not the international health service, if doctors don't want to charge foreign nationals then the doctors should pay for the treatment of foreign nationals.

Tax payers pay the doctors wages they should have some gratitude, the nhs belongs to the nation not doctors who ae they to squander resources ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...verseas-patients-treatment-NHS-hospitals.html

Crawl back under the rock you came from.

 

[SirGalahad]

Yes, really. Read the article. "The only situations where this does not apply are those involving lifesaving procedures or treatment in A&E units."

I’ve never, ever, in my 62 years on this planet been asked to provide proof of entitlement to treatment. I have been asked my date of birth and doctors surgery and then obtained my NHS number from that. Did you have any problem providing your proof? No? Good, there’s no problem then. If they did that for everyone, there’d be no health tourism and a lot more NATIONAL health service to go round for those that are entitled.

Because we can all tell you are British.

 

[SirGalahad]

I was in St James A&E a few weeks back and the lady asked for my GP details, and my own. The man next to me who definitely was a foreigner was asked to produce ID and was being grilled whilst a security guard monitored the situation.

 

[securespark]

SS -

Why would you even have a EHIC in Britain? Did they think you were European.

I didn't start carrying it until I was asked to show it at the ED in the MRI.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Strange.

What about all the people who don't have one?

 

[Mottie]

You have to register at a GP's practice, you will need proof for that, and after you're registered you don't have to show any ID , and at an A&E dept they ask for your name & address and you will come up on their records if you are registered at a GP's practice.

That’s one of the weaknesses of the system. My wife used to work in a GP practice and they were pretty hot on accepting new patients and always demanded proof of entitlement. Other GP's weren’t. If a person from a country that is not entitled to free NHS treatment is accepted onto a GP's books, a NHS number is automatically generated. That number is valid for life. They can then come to the UK anytime from their home country and receive thousands of pounds worth of medical treatment for just the price of an airfare.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

That’s one of the weaknesses of the system. My wife used to work in a GP practice and they were pretty hot on accepting new patients and always demanded proof of entitlement. Other GP's weren’t. If a person from a country that is not entitled to free NHS treatment is accepted onto a GP's books, a NHS number is automatically generated. That number is valid for life. They can then come to the UK anytime from their home country and receive thousands of pounds worth of medical treatment for just the price of an airfare.

It should not be the job of medical staff to check entitlement to treatment, they should have specialist administrators deal with that. However, I don't think absolute emergency treatment should be held up waiting for proof of entitlement.

 

[Mottie]

It should not be the job of medical staff to check entitlement to treatment, they should have specialist administrators deal with that. However, I don't think absolute emergency treatment should be held up waiting for proof of entitlement.

Yes, I agree. There should be administrators for that. As stated earlier, no proof of entitlement is required for emergency treatment.

 

[Ihavenojob]

At the point of entry to the UK, people should be asked if they have medical insurance, if not then A) they purchase it there & then , or B) they get on the next plane/boat/train out of the country.

 

[big-all]

it is never ever the doctors job to check credentials
that stage is always at a level before it reaches the doctor all checks have been performed at least once probably twice before doctors are involved

 

[securespark]

Strange.

What about all the people who don't have one?

Dunno. But at that time there were posters around these hospitals asking people to carry their EHICs. TBF, I haven't been asked to show mine for a while.

 

[big-all]

Dunno. But at that time there were posters around these hospitals asking people to carry their EHICs. TBF, I haven't been asked to show mine for a while.

i dont have an ehic or e111 or any photo id off any sort apart from my now six months old bus pass
yes i do off course fit into the "has lived in this area" and "have been with the same practice" for perhaps 40 years

 

[big-all]

That’s one of the weaknesses of the system. My wife used to work in a GP practice and they were pretty hot on accepting new patients and always demanded proof of entitlement. Other GP's weren’t. If a person from a country that is not entitled to free NHS treatment is accepted onto a GP's books, a NHS number is automatically generated. That number is valid for life. They can then come to the UK anytime from their home country and receive thousands of pounds worth of medical treatment for just the price of an airfare.

lots off assumptions there ???
"Other GP's weren’t. If a person from a country that is not entitled to free NHS treatment is accepted onto a GP's books, a NHS number is automatically generated."
how do you know this ??
what follow up research was put in place to check the validity??
who was the disgression reported to ?
how do you know an automatic valid number was generated without further checks ??