The oldest door in England (UK?)

[diy_fun_uk]

Found this quite interesting ...

Britain's Oldest Door | Westminster Abbey

Britain's oldest door can be found in Westminster Abbey, in the passage leading to the Chapter House.

www.westminster-abbey.org

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Slow news day.

 

[jeds]

Looks like one of noseall's jobs.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Whoever fitted that must have had a few pints of mead before they cut the top.

Get it ripped out, replace it with nice modern UPVC instead. All as part of the conversion into a boat people welcome centre.

 

[noseall]

Dendrochronology is a fascinating science in that it can provide study for climate and other natural occurrences, over the years. Made possible by overlapping the rings over centuries of samples.

 

[JohnD]

There was a purportedly older one turned up recently. St. Botolphs, Safffon Walden.

There are very few buildings more than a thousand years old in England

Because the Normans destroyed them all to weaken English cultural heritage.

Churches, halls and castles, for example

Bit like Russians in Ukraine.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Found this quite interesting ...

Britain's Oldest Door | Westminster Abbey

Britain's oldest door can be found in Westminster Abbey, in the passage leading to the Chapter House.

www.westminster-abbey.org

That's not history. History is only about the British Empire and slavery.

Dendrochronology is a fascinating science in that it can...

...mean anything that you want it to.

 

[big-all]

there are many many variable
Sometimes the lack off researching properly and not looking too hard to avoid an answer you dont want
also a plank door may have been a table or other item and converted many tens off years or even centuries later so more forensic research looking at repairs and marks and treating them with suspicion at a level that will tell the whole story

 

[noseall]

...mean anything that you want it to.

What can?

 

[Odds]

There was a purportedly older one turned up recently. St. Botolphs, Safffon Walden.

There are very few buildings more than a thousand years old in England

Because the Normans destroyed them all to weaken English cultural heritage.

Churches, halls and castles, for example

Bit like Russians in Ukraine.

Anglo-Saxon's built their halls in wood and due to our climate nothing remains of them apart from a shadow in the earth where the posts holding up the roof once stood. The Norman's destroyed much of northern England to weaken the political support for rivals like Harold II and Hereward (the Woke). What we consider English is mostly built by them. The Abbey we see today dates from the 13th century and i think Flemish builders were mostly employed in the reconstruction.
History
I think you're right about St Botolph's, though. The door has remains of a flayed Dane on it.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Imagine I cut down a 500 year old tree this morning, I kiln-dry it this afternoon, then make a door out of it this evening, using the wood from the centre (oldest part) of the trunk.

If I invite a dendrochronology expert round tomorrow (just after the varnish has dried obviously), will he tell me that my door is 500 years old? That was when the centre of the tree grew, so its rings should align with other wood of the same age on their records.

 

[noseall]

Imagine I cut down a 500 year old tree this morning, I kiln-dry it this afternoon, then make a door out of it this evening, using the wood from the centre (oldest part) of the trunk.

If I invite a dendrochronology expert round tomorrow (just after the varnish has dried obviously), will he tell me that my door is 500 years old? That was when the centre of the tree grew, so its rings should align with other wood of the same age on their records.

I think they need a section of rings present to make a comparison and identification. The growth patterns can then be compared and subsequently matched with others.

 

[Notch7]

Found this quite interesting ...

Britain's Oldest Door | Westminster Abbey

Britain's oldest door can be found in Westminster Abbey, in the passage leading to the Chapter House.

www.westminster-abbey.org

In which case it’s time they fitted a lovely composite door set.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I think they need a section of rings present to make a comparison and identification. The growth patterns can then be compared and subsequently matched with others.

I realise. The centre of my brand new door has the rings that grew from 1523-1573. I'm asking whether it is therefore a 500-year old door.

I'm using a silly example to make a serious point. Britain was once covered in wild forests, and lots of these trees were many hundreds of years old when they were harvested for timber.

 

[JohnD]

Imagine I cut down a 500 year old tree this morning, I kiln-dry it this afternoon, then make a door out of it this evening, using the wood from the centre (oldest part) of the trunk.

If I invite a dendrochronology expert round tomorrow (just after the varnish has dried obviously), will he tell me that my door is 500 years old? That was when the centre of the tree grew, so its rings should align with other wood of the same age on their records.

No, because he's not that stupid.