The 'vaccine' - will you have it? And why/why not?

What will you do?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 74.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Not Sure Yet

    Votes: 7 14.0%

  • Total voters
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The great reset is mostly about recognition that we have to see beyond capitalism to protect the planet.

Yes and reset the public as it a lot easier than sorting out capitalism which will be gaining what ever it can from a reset.
 
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It says you will own nothing. So who will?

I didn't realise you were so far down the rabbit hole. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2T0

Why are the world leaders and others all using their mantra "Build Back Better"?

Because they have heard it said and think it is a good slogan? Because they actually believe it and are using it as a group to give people a positive outlook? I don't have a definitive answer.

I googled "covid conspiracy" and got 208,000 hits and "scamdemic" and got 273,000 hits. Even "wef you'll own nothing" had 631 results. Seems a lot of different people like to latch on to things.
 
The disease is being used by the WEF as a smokescreen for their own purposes.

What have they implemented in the past 12 months as part of this smokescreen?

Perhaps they are waiting until we hopefully, fingers crossed, get back to near normal in the short term and then disclose all when we are least expecting it. Sneaky elite....
 
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Firstly to Notch:

It is not a conspiracy; it is a freely available manifesto from the WEF.
Therefore opposing it does not make one a conspiracy theorist; neither does anyone's support of their aims.

Nor does it mean anyone is 'down the rabbit-hole'.

What have they implemented in the past 12 months as part of this smokescreen?
You have not noticed any restrictions on personal freedom and increased personal control measures in the last twelve months and still on-going despite the recent improvements?

Obviously you must have - so you must believe they were solely to combat the disease and presumably think that they have been successful and reduced the numbers forecast by Professor Ferguson (even though none of his forecasts has ever turned out to be correct) by four-fifths even though nowhere in the world, no matter how few measures were introduced, has numbers anywhere near five times greater than the UK.

I see from your link that the WEF does not (now) have a 'stated goal' of "You will own nothing (- and you'll be happy)" (by 2030?) but my 'misunderstanding' comes from one of their videos in 2016. That's alright then.
Obviously deemed too unpalatable to continue stating that goal.


 
I see from your link that the WEF does not (now) have a 'stated goal' of "You will own nothing (- and you'll be happy)" (by 2030?) but my 'misunderstanding' comes from one of their videos in 2016. That's alright then.
Obviously deemed too unpalatable to continue stating that goal.



Interesting videos. I have the same concerns but nowhere was the Great Reset or any doubt of the seriousness and mortality of the virus mentioned. I'm not sure of what relevance they are.

I have my own doubts and wish things were done differently at times. The difference seems to be that you think it has all been planned and is part of the "Great Reset" with numbers being intentionally exaggerated (I still can't see the link in my own mind how these could be linked even if true). Whereas I think mistakes have been made by people trying to do their best.
 
Interesting videos. I have the same concerns but nowhere was the Great Reset or any doubt of the seriousness and mortality of the virus mentioned. I'm not sure of what relevance they are.

I have my own doubts and wish things were done differently at times. The difference seems to be that you think it has all been planned and is part of the "Great Reset" with numbers being intentionally exaggerated (I still can't see the link in my own mind how these could be linked even if true). Whereas I think mistakes have been made by people trying to do their best.

"Never attribute to malice that which may be explained by incompetence".

Seems apt.
 
You have not noticed any restrictions on personal freedom and increased personal control measures in the last twelve months and still on-going despite the recent improvements
deliberately misleading....well wrong TBH

increases in restrictions have only happened as a result of rising infections / hospitalisations.

The only "personal control measures" are mask wearing -and the decision to wear them changed following the data.

The govt announced a roadmap, which they are currently sticking to.
It's spaced 5 weeks apart because it gives time to look at the data.
 
increases in restrictions have only happened as a result of rising infections / hospitalisations.
Really? If you say so.

The only "personal control measures" are mask wearing -and the decision to wear them changed following the data.
Again, if you say so. You would have thought that they would have known how masks worked. Oh yes, of course, they only said they weren't necessary when there weren't enough for everyone, then they were necessary to protect others, then they were necessary to protect the wearer as well.

What about? - Stay home, do this, do that, nearly everything shut, police exceeding their remit etc.

So-called covid passports? -
Which the minister said would never happen in Britain - while they were tendering for companies to supply them and now they are here as an app. Of course no other details will ever be added to the database in the future.
Not necessary if the vaccine works; useless if the vaccine doesn't work.

Oh, you must have missed the above video.
 
What about? - Stay home, do this, do that, nearly everything shut, police exceeding their remit etc.

So-called covid passports? -
Which the minister said would never happen in Britain - while they were tendering for companies to supply them and now they are here as an app. Of course no other details will ever be added to the database in the future.
Not necessary if the vaccine works; useless if the vaccine doesn't work.

Circumstances change, they modify rules with the benefit of hindsight - nothing unusual in doing that, we all do it, even you. If you bang your head on a wall, hindsight suggests it hurts, so you change your behaviour so as not to bang your head on the wall - no conspiracy involved, a simple process of learning what works and what doesn't. .
 
Oh yes, of course, they only said they weren't necessary when there weren't enough for everyone,

More likely that "not necessary" was part of the process of creating herd immunity.

Herd immunity is an efficient method way to protect the majority of a population from a virus.

Up until early 2020 herd immunity was happening all the time when a new mild weak virus came along and spread peacefully without having any serious affects on the health of those who were infected.

It soon became obvious that Covid 19 was creating severe and lasting damage to many of those infected.

Establishing herd immunity would eventually be achieved but only at the cost of very large numbers of deaths and people left with permanent disabilities after "recovering" from the infection.

Herd immunity would come but the cost in terms of deaths and damaged lives was too great.

Hence the change in the procedures to deal with Covid 19
 
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