The 'vaccine' - will you have it? And why/why not?

[ellal]

as I said, if the vast amount of doctors (99%ish) are still recommending it in the spring (when my turn comes around) then I would take their advice.

when it comes to my health money is my very last consideration, so probably would sign, but obviously would need to read first.

Well money does matter to big pharma and the government...

And the important bit you need to read first is...

"The UK government has granted pharmaceutical giant Pfizer a legal indemnity protecting it from being sued, enabling its coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out across the country as early as next week.
The Department of Health and Social Care has confirmed the company has been given an indemnity protecting it from legal action as a result of any problems with the vaccine.
Ministers have also changed the law in recent weeks to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications."

Another decree without any debate being passed off as law...

It's beginning to look a bit like an 'elected' dictatorship!

And I have earlier said I won't be taking the jab anytime soon.
That will I think soon be changing to I won't have it full stop!

After all, what then happens with covid 20/21/22 etc or any other drug/vaccine that we are 'advised' to take?

Big pharma makes hundreds of billions with no liability if/when it goes wrong.
Which means they don't have to worry about whether it actually works, or whether it causes side effects or deaths.

Because they are immune themselves!

Edit:
"In a press conference with journalists on Wednesday, Ben Osborn, Pfizer’s UK managing director, refused to explain why the company needed an indemnity.
He said: “We're not actually disclosing any of the details around any of the aspects of that agreement and specifically around the liability clauses."

But this is another interesting bit...

"The Department of Health and Social Care confirmed an indemnity was in place for Pfizer and added that the government would be adding the coronavirus vaccine to the list of vaccinations covered by the Vaccine Damages Payments Act. This pays out a one-off (up to) £120,000 payment to people who are permanently disabled or harmed as a result of a listed vaccination."

Which means that private companies profit from the 'virus', and the taxpayer coughs up a paltry amount to the victims should the 'vaccine' cause a problem.
And good luck with 'proving' it...

Because only 931 payments have been made since 1979 (up to 2017), and legal fees swallowed up most of the awards...

How long has the blood plasma scandal been rumbling on?
The government waits until most are dead before actually doing anything!

So as always, it's profit before people!

 

[motorbiking]

I say NO to the vaccine because:

1) It could harm me (but I doubt that it would). It's too new and un-proved.
2) Coronavirus isn't as bad as is widely believed
3) I usually don't do what everybody else does, and I've usually been better off for it.
4) I don't trust money-grabbing scientists and I certainly don't trust politicians; I trust only my own instincts and past experience.

I don’t want it at 42 years old.

They pushed through in 10 months a drug that would usually take 10 years to test. Are they saying they usually mess about for 9 years?

No, similar vaccines usually take around 9 months. It’s been fast, but not that fast. Huge amounts of money, technology and know how have been thrown at this. Lots of short cuts taken in procurement because profit has been deprioritised. That alone can take 3-6 months.

 

[durhamplumber]

I say NO to the vaccine because:

1) It could harm me (but I doubt that it would). It's too new and un-proved.
2) Coronavirus isn't as bad as is widely believed
3) I usually don't do what everybody else does, and I've usually been better off for it.
4) I don't trust money-grabbing scientists and I certainly don't trust politicians; I trust only my own instincts and past experience.

So you never had vaccines as a kid?

 

[durhamplumber]

Well money does matter to big pharma and the government...

And the important bit you need to read first is...

"The UK government has granted pharmaceutical giant Pfizer a legal indemnity protecting it from being sued, enabling its coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out across the country as early as next week.
The Department of Health and Social Care has confirmed the company has been given an indemnity protecting it from legal action as a result of any problems with the vaccine.
Ministers have also changed the law in recent weeks to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications."

Another decree without any debate being passed off as law...

It's beginning to look a bit like an 'elected' dictatorship!

And I have earlier said I won't be taking the jab anytime soon.
That will I think soon be changing to I won't have it full stop!

After all, what then happens with covid 20/21/22 etc or any other drug/vaccine that we are 'advised' to take?

Big pharma makes hundreds of billions with no liability if/when it goes wrong.
Which means they don't have to worry about whether it actually works, or whether it causes side effects or deaths.

Because they are immune themselves!

Edit:
"In a press conference with journalists on Wednesday, Ben Osborn, Pfizer’s UK managing director, refused to explain why the company needed an indemnity.
He said: “We're not actually disclosing any of the details around any of the aspects of that agreement and specifically around the liability clauses."

But this is another interesting bit...

"The Department of Health and Social Care confirmed an indemnity was in place for Pfizer and added that the government would be adding the coronavirus vaccine to the list of vaccinations covered by the Vaccine Damages Payments Act. This pays out a one-off (up to) £120,000 payment to people who are permanently disabled or harmed as a result of a listed vaccination."

Which means that private companies profit from the 'virus', and the taxpayer coughs up a paltry amount to the victims should the 'vaccine' cause a problem.
And good luck with 'proving' it...

Because only 931 payments have been made since 1979 (up to 2017), and legal fees swallowed up most of the awards...

How long has the blood plasma scandal been rumbling on?
The government waits until most are dead before actually doing anything!

So as always, it's profit before people!

Talk as much as you like..Most people will have the vaccine.

 

[durhamplumber]

That will I think soon be changing to I won't have it full stop!

Fill ya boots...Free country.

 

[durhamplumber]

Well money does matter to big pharma and the government...

No shīt sherlock...It used to take months to travel to Australia by sea...Now takes few days by jet...Progress...Move on lal ya clampit.

 

[Ihavenojob]

I'm not sure if ellal is saying he won't ever have the vaccine, just like me, I won't be rushing for it, probably be at the back of the queue for it anyway, not eligible for the flu jab, so can't see me getting this soon, which is fair enough. Hopefully, by the time the ones deemed needy of it first have had it, there will be enough evidence to satisfy the ones who aren't sure as to it's safety and efficiency.

 

[Mottie]

I'm not sure if ellal is saying he won't ever have the vaccine

But he wants everyone else to state yes or no as to whether they will and to give their reasons. I think he'd like one but he's afraid of needles. I said that earlier when I asked him whether he would or not but he got my post deleted for some reason.

 

[Ihavenojob]

But he wants everyone else to state yes or no as to whether they will and to give their reasons. I think he'd like one but he's afraid of needles. I said that earlier when I asked him whether he would or not but he got my post deleted for some reason.

I voted not sure, my reason ? I'm not sure about it.

 

[Charlie George]

"The UK government has granted pharmaceutical giant Pfizer a legal indemnity protecting it from being sued, enabling its coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out across the country as early as next week.
The Department of Health and Social Care has confirmed the company has been given an indemnity protecting it from legal action as a result of any problems with the vaccine.
Ministers have also changed the law in recent weeks to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications."

The whole WORLD is doing the same,quite common for vaccines and also part of EU rules.

 

[ellal]

I'm not sure if ellal is saying he won't ever have the vaccine, just like me, I won't be rushing for it, probably be at the back of the queue for it anyway, not eligible for the flu jab, so can't see me getting this soon, which is fair enough. Hopefully, by the time the ones deemed needy of it first have had it, there will be enough evidence to satisfy the ones who aren't sure as to it's safety and efficiency.

Most of those on here who are clamouring for it are probably old gits anyway...

Hoping for a few more years and willing to do anything they are told is 'good for them' without having the individuality trait to just stop and think about it for a while...

But hey, like you I'm at the back of the queue as well. And happy to be there!

Let the guinea pigs show us the truth

 

[EFLImpudence]

Most of those on here who are clamouring for it are probably old gits anyway...

Some who are clamouring are apparently relatively young gits.

 

[EddieM]

Most of those on here who are clamouring for it are probably old gits anyway...

Hoping for a few more years and willing to do anything they are told is 'good for them' without having the individuality trait to just stop and think about it for a while...

But hey, like you I'm at the back of the queue as well. And happy to be there!

Let the guinea pigs show us the truth

So seemingly you're against racism, facism, sexism and religious intolerance but ageism is fine in your book.

 

[ellal]

So seemingly you're against racism, facism, sexism and religious intolerance but ageism is fine in your book.

Nope, just pointing out the facts...

Same as many old gits suddenly 'find god' near the end, 'just in case'

 

[EddieM]

Nope, just pointing out the facts...

Same as many old gits suddenly 'find god' near the end, 'just in case'

So you know the age of everyone who voted yes to having the vaccine? What is your definition of old?