Theresa May's Brexit talks with the Labour Party are a "grave mistake"

[noseall]

What was that noise

It was 500 MP's screaming WHAT FOOKING BREXIT DO YOU WANT!

Fest still has not got a clue, poor old sod.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I repeat the reason Brexit hasn't happened is because of Labour not wanting it to happen because anything the Tories achieve is bad for labour.

It is the job of an opposition to oppose.

The number of Tory MPs plus the votes they bought from the DUP gives the government an overall majority.

So why have they not managed to get their deal voted through? They have more votes than all the other parties combined, so where's the problem?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I voted leave ffs. What don't you get about that.

What don't you get about the fact that you therefore voted for whatever form leaving takes.

You did not specify a single view on any of the myriad facets of leaving, or express a preference on any option(s), therefore you are democratically bound to support whatever form of leaving we end up with, and to agree that it is what you wanted.

 

[festive]

What don't you get as the voters it matters not what Or how we want to leave.

If I got in a car and said take me to east London and the guy said it may take longer than the train. In fact you need to specify your route to me in minutiae detail. I would of course find another driver. Especially if he said he didn't really want to drive anyway!
I'd get in the next car and ask the same and expect it to be done for me. It's what I asked for.

Your lame repetitive excuse of you don't know or can't make your mind up is cretinous.

 

[SirGalahad]

What don't you get as the voters it matters not what Or how we want to leave.

If I got in a car and said take me to east London and the guy said it may take longer than the train. In fact you need to specify your route to me in minutiae detail. I would of course find another driver. Especially if he said he didn't really want to drive anyway!
I'd get in the next car and ask the same and expect it to be done for me. It's what I asked for.

Your lame repetitive excuse of you don't know or can't make your mind up is cretinous.

The problem with that analogy is that you have specified a destination. Brexit mythical land of Unicorns and rainbows sadly doesn't exist.

 

[JohnD]

If I got in a car and said...

"..just drive me away from here," with no destination in mind, then it would not take the driver long to realise you were off your head.

At the first crossroads, he asks you "Left, right, or straight ahead?"

"No" you say.

"Shall I turn round and go back?" he asks

"No" you say.

"Shall I just sit here and wait for you to make up your mind?" he asks

"No" you say.

 

[festive]

The problem with that analogy is that you have specified a destination. Brexit mythical land of Unicorns and rainbows sadly doesn't exist.

In your world it doesn't. But in fact It does. We can but you don't want to for the sake of your argument here.

 

[JohnD]

It does.

And yet the brexers can't agree among themselves where it is, or what it is.

Which option has rice-pudd voted for?

Why doesn't rice-pudd publish his own proposal? And draft a Bill for Parliament to vote on? Because he doesn't know what to do and the other brexers won't support him.

Why doesn't Buffoon Johnson? Because he is a lying idiot and has no idea what he wants except to be prime minister.

The Brexers can't agree what they want, and won't vote for any option.

No point in blaming anyone else for the brexers failure.

 

[SirGalahad]

In your world it doesn't. But in fact It does. We can but you don't want to for the sake of your argument here.

Lol. Numerous times you have been asked what Brexit and what will it entail and we get the same obfuscation you dont know the details.

Do we have enough pallets? Capacity for checks? Irish border? The list goes on.

 

[SirGalahad]

If it does exist can you tell me where it is?

 

[Notch7]

A serious question...

When exactly did you realise that and understand that you made the wrong choice?

Im not when in period of time -last year I guess.

I voted leave because Im not keen on the massive concentration of power that the EU has.

What changed my mind was principally:

-there is a lack of a realistic alternative.

-years of negotiations and the work from the in creating the EU has put the UK in position significant power within the EU. Being outside, or worse in the WTO we will get a poor deal. Not only that, we will get a terrible deal from the EU which will drag on for years

-the appalling dishonesty of Theresa May, blindly persuing any trick or bribe she can think to get her carp deal over the line.

Im still not keen on the EU, those at the heart are empire builders with a federal vision. But there is a growing drive amongst EU members to slow down the progress and look to reform.

On balance staying in is really the only worthwhile option. Especially given the choices:

Leave no deal: silly and wont happen

Theresa May WA: worse than existing deal

Labour customs union option: again, worse than current deal

 

[festive]

If it does exist can you tell me where it is?

It's called Leave. Which we had a deal

Lol. Numerous times you have been asked what Brexit and what will it entail and we get the same obfuscation you dont know the details.

Do we have enough pallets? Capacity for checks? Irish border? The list goes on.

Doesn't matter. All this BS posturing of having a better grasp of the situation doesn't matter or involve us minions. I have mentioned many times this there's no avoidance I don't have the expertise for the detail what you are asking you know full well yet still replay it regularly i guess for some cheap thrill perhaps?

Here you go want me to say it again I can't give you the exact detail sirg..almost there are we?

 

[Notch7]

All this BS posturing of having a better grasp of the situation doesn't matter or involve us minions.

It does matter because making an informed choice at the referendum on something of great importance for the future requires a very good grasp of the situation.

You have in many ways summed up the huge mistake that was made holding a binary referendum on a subject so complex.

As per my recent post, I am not a fan of the EU and I voted leave, but the alternative are just so much worse. Do you not agree?

 

[EFLImpudence]

It's no different than Durhamplumber wanting Durham to leave the UK on Monday because he is fed up being told what to do by that there London - and bugger the consequences - while all of Durham's businessmen, councillors and MPs think it a stupid idea..

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Remember Corbyn said even if we agree a way forward May's successor could change all of it after we have progressed to negotiating our exit strategy in detail.

So you'd be quite happy with the situation where a leave deal was agreed, and then a future administration coud just come along and change it?