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Odds said:
A cross-party group of MPs who are practising medics and former NHS staff have written to MPs urging them to back the assisted dying bill, after the health secretary expressed doubt that the health service was fit to enact such a big change. @ the Guardian


Not sure i could pull the plug on a loved one if that terrible decision ever had to be made - could you?
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Its not your loved ones you should be concerned about.
Its the people that don't have any loved ones.
Britain today is full of isolated and vulnerable people who are at risk.
Dr Shipman would have a field day.
 
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It happens today, but "under the counter"

Recognising and regulating it may not be a bad thing.
 
motorbiking said:
Having recently experienced a loved one dying from cancer in a hospice. I witnessed the amazing care that the professionals in the Hospice were able to give. At a practical level there isn't much difference between the excellent attention they provide managing pain and anxiety with drugs, right up to the end and someone choosing to die. The challenge is, most Hospices are charities funded by donations and managed by churches. It may be hard asking them to manage those who want to die.

The last place you want to be, if you are dying is an NHS ward or A&E.
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My mother died in a NHS ward, best of care
 
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A case a few years ago in a Newcastle nursing home.
Some old lady with no relatives died penniless, the home applied to the council for a grant to bury her.
The council refused, they said the old lady was a resident of the home for years, as the home was a private business which made profits, the old lady was considered a waste product of the business, therfore the owners of the home were responsible for her disposel.
Fortunately the staff didn't consider her waste, as they had been fond of her while alive, they all chipped in and gave her a decent funeral.
This shows that if someone hasn't got a supportive family, they are at serious risk.

Who is actually going to police this assisted suicide legislation.
 
Vinty said:
A case a few years ago in a Newcastle nursing home.
Some old lady with no relatives died penniless, the home applied to the council for a grant to bury her.
The council refused, they said the old lady was a resident of the home for years, as the home was a private business which made profits, the old lady was considered a waste product of the business, therfore the owners of the home were responsible for her disposel.
Fortunately the staff didn't consider her waste, as they had been fond of her while alive, they all chipped in and gave her a decent funeral.
This shows that if someone hasn't got a supportive family, they are at serious risk.
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Sounds a bit fishy.

A council-funded burial or cremation is extremely basic. I went to one once.
 
Vinty said:
A case a few years ago in a Newcastle nursing home.
Some old lady with no relatives died penniless, the home applied to the council for a grant to bury her.
The council refused, they said the old lady was a resident of the home for years, as the home was a private business which made profits, the old lady was considered a waste product of the business, therfore the owners of the home were responsible for her disposel.
Fortunately the staff didn't consider her waste, as they had been fond of her while alive, they all chipped in and gave her a decent funeral.
This shows that if someone hasn't got a supportive family, they are at serious risk.

Who is actually going to police this assisted suicide legislation.
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Got a whiff of urban myth about it
 
I believe most people would prefer to die at home, and not to have a long and painful decline.
 
motorbiking said:
Having recently experienced a loved one dying from cancer in a hospice. I witnessed the amazing care that the professionals in the Hospice were able to give. At a practical level there isn't much difference between the excellent attention they provide managing pain and anxiety with drugs, right up to the end and someone choosing to die. The challenge is, most Hospices are charities funded by donations and managed by churches. It may be hard asking them to manage those who want to die.

The last place you want to be, if you are dying is an NHS ward or A&E.
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MacMillan and other hospices provide excellent end of life care borne out of years experience. As you say this is already a form of assisted dying, drugs are already used when end of life is nigh.
 
Vinty said:
A case a few years ago in a Newcastle nursing home.
Some old lady with no relatives died penniless, the home applied to the council for a grant to bury her.
The council refused, they said the old lady was a resident of the home for years, as the home was a private business which made profits, the old lady was considered a waste product of the business, therfore the owners of the home were responsible for her disposel.
Fortunately the staff didn't consider her waste, as they had been fond of her while alive, they all chipped in and gave her a decent funeral.
This shows that if someone hasn't got a supportive family, they are at serious risk.

Who is actually going to police this assisted suicide legislation.
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Many nursing homes keep residents alive at all costs especially if they are private payers
 
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