time to renounce religion..

[uzziel49]

I can neither believe nor disbelieve in an unknown concept. As the concept is unknown, I cannot ask myself the fundamental question of belief or non-belief.

Just my perspective, of course.

 

[sooey]

Sooey, maybe there is evidence for God's existence,

For example?

 

[DIYDANDY]

Show me someone who says they have never exceeded a speed limit and I'll show you a liar or a menace

When I asked my son if he had been speeding he told me that he never ever went to fast.

I win...

 

[skitzee2k]

I describe myself as an antitheist for that reason. I have thought about it and believe there are no gods. It is an atheistic view...but not all atheists are antitheists...but all antitheists are atheist. Devil is in the detail...excuse the pun.

 

[DIYDANDY]

Right now I am thinking of a concept..a weird one... You don't believe in it... you don't disbelieve it. You are yet to decide. You have no belief on it.

But you becided/believed that it was worth consideration.

 

[skitzee2k]

Right now I am thinking of a concept..a weird one... You don't believe in it... you don't disbelieve it. You are yet to decide. You have no belief on it.

But you becided/believed that it was worth consideration.

you have missed my point ...please reread

 

[uzziel49]

Sooey, maybe there is evidence for God's existence,

For example?

You're missing the point, I'm putting forward a scenario, doesn't mean I have to support it. Evidence is open to interpretation, as I said, life through a lens. Perhaps I should have phrased the point differently.

 

[DIYDANDY]

Deleted, right answer to wrong poster.

 

[Big Tone]

Skitzee... I don't know if you remember me but we crossed swords once and got off to a bad start IMO. But I like you and I like what you're saying here and think we may have one or two things in common on this subject

Not sure what Dandy is trying to suggest with his son-on-bike analogy though

 

[ajstoneservices]

Skitzee... I don't know if you remember me but we crossed swords once and got off to a bad start IMO. But I like you and I like what you're saying here and think we may have one or two things in common on this subject

 

[sooey]

Evidence is open to interpretation,

Factual evidence isn't, as someone once said "facts are stubborn things".
I don't think I was missing the point either, this is a thread about religion and belief, asking for examples of the "evidence" you purport may be out there is perfectly reasonable and helps to steer you back on topic.

 

[skitzee2k]

Aj don't be jealous he loves you too.

Hey tone, yeah , I remember. Thanks.

 

[uzziel49]

It's a thread on faitn and religion - at what point did it become an exercise in proving or disproving any given belief system or deity? I said there may be evidence - are you familiar with the hypothetical?

 

[ajstoneservices]

Evidence is open to interpretation,

Factual evidence isn't

It's that kind of evidenece that is most argued over and found to be wanting

 

[sooey]

It's a thread on faitn and religion - at what point did it become an exercise in proving or disproving any given belief system or deity?

Considering you thought it was a thread about banning religions that's a bit rich. We've already agreed that you can niether prove or disprove religious ideas, that's the magic money spinning ingredient about them.

I said there may be evidence - are you familiar with the hypothetical?

I'd already stated there wasn't any, so you stating that there may be is far from hypothetical, to me anyway, and I have the perfect right to ask you to show me some, though I know you can't. But getting back to your hypothetical scenario in which you try to show that I may be evaluating the so called evidence wrongly based on my current beliefs, I simply ask "what fcking evidence?"