No no no.
You made the claim, you must know where the evidence is which justifies it, and you must provide it when asked.
If you won't then then it is clear that you cannot, and that you know you are telling us something untrue.
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You made the claim, you must know where the evidence is which justifies it, and you must provide it when asked.
If you won't then then it is clear that you cannot, and that you know you are telling us something untrue.
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Fair enough.
However, I agree with you and BAS. There is, of course, a potential hazard associated with being plunged into darkness in a loft, but that can happen due to a power cut or other reasons, so if one is concerned about that (very unlikely) situation, one should install some battery-backed up 'emergency lighting' in the loft.
In response to BAS's comment, I have no real concerns about anyone currently living in my house (or working in my house) 'mis-using' a socket they come across in my loft. However, I suppose some people would be concerned on behalf of future occupiers of the house.
I suppose that those who have such concerns could feed the BS1363 socket via an FCU with a 1A fuse (and maybe 'labelled' appropriately!) - which would almost certainly blow before the B6 if, per winston's fears, someone plugged in a vacuum cleaner or heater. Of course, some bright spark might subsequently change the fuse in the FCU, but there is a limit to how much idiot-proofing one can do!
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I think most of us possess the equipment (tape measure) to do it
I have a 12" willy, but I don't use it as a rule.
it depends on the TV, but only 2 days ago I was working with a tuner that gave an actual numerical reading of BER. And even for those that don't, most give both a signal strength and signal quality indication (note that I said indication, not measurement) which if you have a clue will give you all the information you need for a DIY install.
Keep digging, that hole is getting deep now
Because, by your very own admission, in the very same post (even though you screwed up the quoting) you stated that :
So "a bit of wire (which is effectively what rabbit ears are) can give you too much signal" whilst also being "completely unsuitable" (your words, not mine). I'll take "too much signal" any day - losing it with an attenuator is trivial, dealing with too little (or too poor S/N ratio) is a lot harder.
Now, had you said "unsuitable except in very strong signal areas", you'd have got away with it - but you didn't.
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If you believe that you are just as naive as those that believe they can test electrics with a neon screwdriver.
Think. Why do aerial installers spend several hundred pounds on signal meters?
Probably because it's easier and quicker than using the customer's television.
What are you on about, sort out your own grammar before criticising others
I suggest for someone who consistently uses 'there' instead of 'their' that is coming on a bit strong.
Do you actually know the difference between 'there' and their'?
Yeah but I dont say **** like this
OK - no - I didn't realise that. Sorry.
Not my day, is it....
I can't see why anybody would have such problems of people wandering around in their loft unplugging/plugging things that they felt they needed to make a plug or wallwart only removable with a tool.
I'm inclined to agree. However, if such a socket was anywhere other than in the loft, I would want to do something (even if just label it) - not the least so that I did not forget that it was on a 6A circuit!
Kind Regards, John
Been there. Sockets on a 6 amp MCB for a lamp, the broadband router, distribution amp and door bell power unit . One day about 3 years after I installed it I plugged the electric drill in.
Ah yes, the "there's a socket, I'll use that" problem.
Many years ago, with a different work hat on, we had a power cut at work. The landlord (these were converted cow sheds) had a small petrol genny - so we ran some extension leads through to the server room and got some systems running. Our own offices were dark, but at least other sites could work.
I was in there, and suddenly I heard the fans in the ancient UPS slow down, the contactor rattle a bit, then the fans speed up again. This repeated a couple of times - but amazingly the systems managed to stay up.
I ran down the corridor to where the genny was, to find someone with an angle grinder in his hand. While the power was off and other duties were on hold, he'd decided now was a good time to get some maintenance in - and here was power for the angle grinder. When he took a deep cut, the genny slowed under the load ... I'm tempted to say he learned some new vocabulary then - but I think he already knew it.
Many years ago, with a different work hat on, we had a power cut at work. The landlord (these were converted cow sheds) had a small petrol genny - so we ran some extension leads through to the server room and got some systems running. Our own offices were dark, but at least other sites could work.
I was in there, and suddenly I heard the fans in the ancient UPS slow down, the contactor rattle a bit, then the fans speed up again. This repeated a couple of times - but amazingly the systems managed to stay up.
I ran down the corridor to where the genny was, to find someone with an angle grinder in his hand. While the power was off and other duties were on hold, he'd decided now was a good time to get some maintenance in - and here was power for the angle grinder. When he took a deep cut, the genny slowed under the load ...
I'm tempted to say he learned some new vocabulary then - but I think he already knew it.
Change the MCB.
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