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[fillyboy]

The conflict did not begin on the 7 October. It started in 1948 when Israel evicted 700,000 Palestinians from Jaffa.

Not sure why you keep claiming that, but for clarity, the population of Jaffa in 1948 was around 90,000 of which 28,000 were Jews, so the number of Palestinians who left Jaffa would have been 60 odd thousand.
I say 'left' because although many were forcibly removed, many simply fled because of the 1948 war launched by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq which lasted around 9 months.

In total around 700,000 Palestinians fled because of the war launched by the Arabs or were evicted.

You seem confused, hope this helps.

 

[ellal]

That all depends if you want to support living in the past with it's inherit barbarism or a more modernistic approach to the future.

Seems like the 'inherent' (spelling corrected for you) barbarism has been inherited by the current lot...

The weapons have simply just got more deadly and more 'efficient' at killing people....

So is that what you meant by a 'more modernistic approach'?

 

[ellal]

You seem confused, hope this helps.

Rewriting history seems to be a skill you excel at...

A skill shared with many a racist bigot who has not got a clue about the damage that can be done by the hatred that you spout!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Rewriting history seems to be a skill you excel at...

A skill shared with many a racist bigot who has not got a clue about the damage that can be done by the hatred that you spout!

Inaccurate hate that he spouts.

Any comment on Israel terrorism yet filly?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Not sure why you keep claiming that, but for clarity, the population of Jaffa in 1948 was around 90,000 of which 28,000 were Jews, so the number of Palestinians who left Jaffa would have been 60 odd thousand.
I say 'left' because although many were forcibly removed, many simply fled because of the 1948 war launched by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq which lasted around 9 months.

In total around 700,000 Palestinians fled because of the war launched by the Arabs or were evicted.

You seem confused, hope this helps.

Jewish mortars and loudspeaker trucks shook Arab neighborhoods in early 1948 as sectarian fighting consumed the newly partitioned land that would soon become Israel. Amid the prolonged shelling, the trucks would broadcast the threatening sounds of wailing sirens, fake screams and evacuation warnings.

Returning home would prove impossible for an estimated 750,000 Palestinians and their millions of descendants. When Israeli archives opened in the 1980s, records showed how Israeli operations, including psychological-warfare broadcasts, helped drive the exodus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/11/03/israel-nakba-history-1948/

[Colorized] photos of the Nakba ("Catastrophe"), around when more than 700,000 Palestinians were displaced from their land in historical Palestine during Israel's creation in 1948. Photo taken in Jaffa, Palestine (at the time) [960 × 884]​

They were forced out at gunpoint.

The eviction of Palestinians began in 1948 and has continued ever since.

In 1947, the UNSCOP had recommended that Jaffa be included in the planned Jewish state. Due to the large Arab majority, however, UN designated it as part of the Arab state although its route to the rest of the Arab territory was surrounded by the proposed Jewish state. That road however, along with Jerusalem was to be international property.

The municipality of Jaffa was well organised and quite prepared to fund its own municipal police. Unfortunately, however, the Jews perceived Jaffa as threat and were determined to annexe it. The British army and navy did actually support Jaffa against some Irgun and Haganah attacks but realizing the city would fall as soon as they withdrew, they eventually concentrated on evacuating the city.
When Haganah took control of the town on 14th May, a mere 4,000 people were left, mostly concentrated in the Ajami district.

History of the Palestine Police during the British Mandate - 1948-Evacuation of the mixed cities - Jaffa.

948-Evacuation of the mixed cities - Jaffa

britishpalestinepolice.org.uk

 

[fillyboy]

Rewriting history seems to be a skill you excel at...

A skill shared with many a racist bigot who has not got a clue about the damage that can be done by the hatred that you spout!

The history of the 1948 Nakba and it's causes is well documented, you should read some of it.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

This ?

In 1948, more than 700000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Mandatory Palestine's Arab population – fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias and, later, the Israeli army[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] during the 1948 Palestine war,[9] following the Partition Plan for Palestine. The expulsion and flight was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession, and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba.[

 

[fillyboy]

This ?

In 1948, more than 700000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Mandatory Palestine's Arab population – fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias and, later, the Israeli army[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] during the 1948 Palestine war,[9] following the Partition Plan for Palestine. The expulsion and flight was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession, and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba.[

That confirms exactly what I said, that many fled and it was during the 1948 war instigated by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq.
As luck would have it, the Israelis didn't flee.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The history of the 1948 Nakba and it's causes is well documented, you should read some of it.

At least you're beginning to realise that the current conflict did not begin in October last year.
We are getting somehwere.

 

[Roy Bloom]

That confirms exactly what I said, that many fled and it was during the 1948 war instigated by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq.
As luck would have it, the Israelis didn't flee.

You're trying to rewrite history. The Palestinians were expelled by Israelis.
The other Arab nations would not expell the Palestinians. Your logic is well twisted.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That confirms exactly what I said, that many fled and it was during the 1948 war instigated by Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq.
As luck would have it, the Israelis didn't flee.

You missed out the real story though.

Expelled. And who by.

What about israel terrorism, any comment yet or just conveniently ignoring the question

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You're trying to rewrite history. The Palestinians were expelled by Israelis.
The other Arab nations would not expell the Palestinians. Your logic is well twisted.

1 sided, not just twisted

He refuses to see a full picture

 

[gant]

You're off your trolley.
And because yoiu resort to blatant lying accusations, I won't bother debating with you.

When you demonstrate that you can debate on a genuine and honest basis, we might have a chance.
Until then, carry on with your gantish.

So you don't want to confront your hatred of the Jews which leads you to support Hamas.

 

[ellal]

The history of the 1948 Nakba and it's causes is well documented, you should read some of it.

I have indeed...

I have also spent a considerable amount of time travelling/working in Israel/Palestine/Jordan/Egypt, and chatted with a few of the locals..

Have you?

 

[fillyboy]

I have indeed...

I have also spent a considerable amount of time travelling/working in Israel/Palestine/Jordan/Egypt, and chatted with a few of the locals..

Have you?

Yes you know I lived there for a year.