Vaxxers read this. Link provided

[JohnD]

I'm saying it's worth a better look.

It's had a better look, and it doesn't work.


https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab591/6310839

Conclusions
Compared with the standard of care or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, LOS, or viral clearance in RCTs in patients with mostly mild COVID-19. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or SAEs and is not a viable option to treat patients with COVID-19.

 

[denso13]

but not this one

Any evidence for that?

 

[Justin Passing]

Enough!

 

[IT Minion]

Check how many doses given in India, and who stopped it.

India is on around 8 million doses a day. It's not stopped. In fact it's about as fast as it's ever been.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ind...=chrome.2.69i57j0i13l2j0i13i457j0i13.3353j0j7

Do you just make this stuff up to make yourself sound clever?

 

[Justin Passing]

Any evidence for that?

Gawd, if the specific monkey virus had been used before , some people would have antibodies to it and the vaccine would be stopped. The dna has to get into the cell nucleus. It wouldn't do that if antibodies got it first. So they have to use a variation for every vaccine. You can't give multiples of the same AZ vaccine.

 

[denso13]

Check how many doses given in India, and who stopped it.

This one mentions India, amongst others...

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...he-use-of-ivermectin-jim-hoft-gateway-pundit/

"Official support for this drug also occurred in other countries in Latin America. However, these countries have experienced multiple waves of COVID-19 cases and deaths throughout 2020 and 2021 despite the ivermectin recommendation in place (Figure 3). Peru withdrew its recommendation in March 2021.

 

[Justin Passing]

India is on around 8 million doses a day. It's not stopped. In fact it's about as fast as it's ever been.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ind...=chrome.2.69i57j0i13l2j0i13i457j0i13.3353j0j7

Do you just make this stuff up to make yourself sound clever?

You misunderstod me - I meant Ivermectin doses. Some big number I forgot. Then there was an edict not to use it, "because it wasn't approved". Trials - of varying quality - were done in India which appeared to show it being beneficial, so it looked odd.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Association not causation

I agree. Same with covid deaths though.

 

[IT Minion]

You misunderstod me - I meant Ivermectin doses. Some big number I forgot. Then there was an edict not to use it, "because it wasn't approved". Trials - of varying quality - were done in India which appeared to show it being beneficial, so it looked odd.

8 million doses a day big? I doubt that. For a start they don't produce it in that volume.

There was similar guidance for Hydroxycholoroquine, it turned out to be a good idea.

Still no thoughts on Dexamethasone I see. You know, an actual treatment that has been shown to work.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Enough!

Have you finally tired of having your misdirections challenged?

 

[Justin Passing]

8 million doses a day big? I doubt that. For a start they don't produce it in that volume.

There was similar guidance for Hydroxycholoroquine, it turned out to be a good idea.

Still no thoughts on Dexamethasone I see. You know, an actual treatment that has been shown to work.

I did not say 8 million doses of ivermectin, Ok?? YOU said 8mill vaccines.

 

[denso13]

specific monkey

"Specific monkey", what are you on about? I showed you research where the chimpanzee adenovirus was used previously and is used now in the AZ vaccine. They all have the same prefix ChAd which stands for chimpanzee adenovirus. I'll grant you it is probably coming from different chimpanzees, I'd hate to think they've been using the same one over the years.

 

[IT Minion]

I did not say 8 million doses of ivermectin, Ok?? YOU said 8mill vaccines.

So, much smaller than vaccination. Care to make up a number?

 

[Justin Passing]

Have you finally tired of having your misdirections challenged?

No I'm tired of people misquoting , making straw men etc etc etc.

SUggesting there may be more to it that we know, and there's a surprising number of trials claiming some benefit which need explaining other than by edict, is not a misdirection.

 

[IT Minion]

No I'm tired of people misquoting , making straw men etc etc etc.

SUggesting there may be more to it that we know, and there's a surprising number of trials claiming some benefit which need explaining other than by edict, is not a misdirection.

There might be, but it looks like it's another one that won't pan out, after all it didn't work in the only large scale randomised trial to publish results that hasn't been retracted.