Vive La France!

C vs S did not strike out on the basis that the abortion was lawful, they tested the criteria of the 1929 act. This was because any abortion on socio-economic grounds of a viable foetus was unlawful and while there was an upper time limit where the foetus would be deemed viable there was no lower time limit

The court ruled on the age of viability of the foetus. Nobody had been foolish enough to claim before that, at 21 weeks, a foetus might be viable. The man who brought this case was laughed out of court. But to stop any other idiot doing it again, they changed the law in 1991, to bring in a fixed 24 week time limit, so there would be no doubt in future about the time limit. I would imagine a 10 year old could understand this.
 
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Doesn't it just mean that the doctor has reached an opinion in good faith that the legal criteria are met, and that he doesn't have to make a moral judgement about whether going ahead is 'right'?
MBK mistakenly thought that it didn't say 'authorise', when in fact it does say that. He just misread it or misunderstood the grammar......
Jeez can you even read?

To show that an opinion has been formed 'in good faith' does not mean that authorising an abortion must be the 'right' course of action

It literally tells them this is not an authorisation.
Lol. In his anger, he forgot to put on his spec's.
 
Cases with no merit do not get to the Supreme Court. Nobody was laughed out. The law was changed to address this.
 
do you realise how ridiculous that argument is?
IRONY ALERT!

Read this paragraph and tell us what it says in bold type....

Currently, the requirement for two doctors to certify that a woman meets the legal grounds for abortion has the potential to delay treatment. It may be difficult for a woman who is concerned about confidentiality to find two doctors to approve her abortion request. There is no central monitoring of delays to treatment of this type, but recently, Tony Calland, the Medical Ethics Committee Chair of the British Medical Association (BMA) said that "some women waited up to 13 weeks [gestation] to have their abortion approved by two doctors and removing this requirement would reduce such a wait and the associated risks". The requirement for two signatures for solely legal purposes also increases treatment costs by introducing unnecessary bureaucracy.

.....what do you think Dr Tony Calland means? :unsure:

Lol.
 
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Cases with no merit do not get to the Supreme Court. Nobody was laughed out. The law was changed to address this.

It didn't get to the Supreme Court, which by the way didn't even exist at that time. There was an expedited hearing. The High Court said there was no standing, an hour later the Court of Appeal said it was nonsense, the House Of Lords refused to hear it.
 
[1987] EWCA Civ J0225-1

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)

ON APPEAL FROM THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE

QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION

(MRS. JUSTICE HEILBRON)

Royal Courts of Justice.
 
The fact remains. The 1929 act had power until the 1991 changes.

Yes, that is true. It was a complex construction involving the Abortion Act, the OAPA and the 1929 Act. Then in 1991 they simplified it, and they brought the bit that had been governed by the 1929 Act directly into the Abortion Act.
 
Read this paragraph and tell us what it says in bold type....

Currently, the requirement for two doctors to certify that a woman meets the legal grounds for abortion has the potential to delay treatment. It may be difficult for a woman who is concerned about confidentiality to find two doctors to approve her abortion request. There is no central monitoring of delays to treatment of this type, but recently, Tony Calland, the Medical Ethics Committee Chair of the British Medical Association (BMA) said that "some women waited up to 13 weeks [gestation] to have their abortion approved by two doctors and removing this requirement would reduce such a wait and the associated risks". The requirement for two signatures for solely legal purposes also increases treatment costs by introducing unnecessary bureaucracy.

.....what do you think Dr Tony Calland means? :unsure:

Lol.
Perhaps MBK can't say...?
 
Yes, that is true. It was a complex construction involving the Abortion Act, the OAPA and the 1929 Act. Then in 1991 they simplified it, and they brought the bit that had been governed by the 1929 Act directly into the Abortion Act.
No. The 1991 rules didn’t simplify the law. It removed the possibility of doctors being prosecuted for ending a viable life, that is major not insignificant. And it extended de facto abortion on demand to full term, effectively mbk’s reference to socio economic grounds, all at the same time as reducing the limit to 24 weeks. I can’t see any reference to 28 weeks in the 67 act so it must have changed the 29 act too. Far from a simplification
 
And it extended de facto abortion on demand to full term

No it didn't. What you call "de facto abortion on demand" is restricted to 24 weeks.

The 1991 rules didn’t simplify the law. It removed the possibility of doctors being prosecuted for ending a viable life, that is major not insignificant.

They did simplify the construction of the law, which was the subject of my post. Instead of having the time limit in a different Act, they brought the time limit into the Abortion Act itself. I mean simplified in the sense that now there are only two Acts rather than three.

I can’t see any reference to 28 weeks in the 67 act so it must have changed the 29 act too.

It disapplied the 1929 Act in these cases. See the point immediately above. The Act itself was unchanged.
 
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