Vive La France!

[denso13]

The role of the doctors is not to approve that abortion is the best course of action.

You are adding bits on now that no one has yet claimed.

It is to gauge whether the criteria have been met. It isn't the doctors job to take into account whether it is the best course of action or not.

 

[denso13]

Why is this so hard?

I've no idea. You keep ignoring the key question.

 

[motorbiking]

Surely adding a the time limit made it harder, not easier?

The socio-economic criteria seem to be in the original Act?

No. The bar was substantially lowered..

that the pregnancy has not exceeded its twenty-fourth week and that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated, of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family; or

a)that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk to the life of the pregnant woman, or of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated; or

See the difference?

No requirement for there to be a risk to life only that it is lower than giving birth.

It always is that way - all other things being equal

 

[denso13]

Why is this so hard ?

Because he cannot admit he is wrong and will try to deflect.

 

[motorbiking]

No one is arguing these points you keep deflecting with.

A doctor is legally required (under the Abortion Act 1967) to sign off the abortion (in good faith). He does this via a HSA1 form (or others) thus approving the abortion. No approval - no abortion.

Again. No requirement in the act to sign off anything.

 

[noseall]

Again. No requirement in the act to sign off anything.

In addition, registered Medical Practitioners are legally required, under the Abortion Act 1967, as amended, to notify the Chief Medical Officer (CMO) of every abortion performed in England and Wales whether carried out in the NHS or an approved independent sector place and whether or not the woman is a UK resident. The Department of Health provides form HSA4 for this purpose.

 

[denso13]

Again. No requirement in the act to sign off anything.

What if the criteria in the act are not met?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Again. No requirement in the act to sign off anything.

So she doesn't need to find these 2 doctors to have any opinion then.

So why do you say she has to

 

[noseall]

Again. No requirement in the act to sign off anything.

WRONG.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmsctech/1045/104507.htm
Here you go...

 

[motorbiking]

In addition, registered Medical Practitioners are legally required, under the Abortion Act 1967, as amended, to notify the Chief Medical Officer (CMO) of every abortion performed in England and Wales whether carried out in the NHS or an approved independent sector place and whether or not the woman is a UK resident. The Department of Health provides form HSA4 for this purpose.

You understand that this provision has nothing to do with the lawful exemption? Do you understand the meaning of wilful?

 

[noseall]

You understand that this provision has nothing to do with the lawful exemption? Do you understand the meaning of wilful?

84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.

Stick that in your pipe laddie. Good night.

 

[motorbiking]

WRONG.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmsctech/1045/104507.htm
Here you go...

Case law? That’s not case law

 

[motorbiking]

84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.

Stick that in your pipe laddie. Good night.

Not in the act. Why don’t you read the actual law. Is it because it doesn’t support your argument. Hmmm

 

[noseall]

If anyone reading this thread is in any doubt have a look

HERE

go to 84.
Stick that in your pipe laddie.

 

[noseall]

Case law? That’s not case law

Scroll down dummy.