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He may be.

But that isn't the fact being discussed that he continually avoids.

He avoids stating what happens if 2 doctors don't think the grounds are met. And that is the crux !
I've already established that two doctors are required to approve an abortion. The rest is deflective waffle.
 
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I've already established that two doctors are required to approve an abortion. The rest is deflective waffle.
I know.

I'm just waiting for mbk to put it in black and white

Admit he is wrong, or to just keep showing himself up. This isn't the 1st (or the last) time he has been wrong on laws.
 
On several occasions during the past 60 pages, MBK pointed out that not having an HSA1 did not make it an illegal abortion under the OAPA, as long as two doctors had come to an opinion, in good faith, that the grounds for abortion were met

I was simply pointing out that MBK was actually correct on that particular point
But MBK is making a point not being argued and in any case is theoretical as the system is designed for form HSA1 to be signed.

Do you know of any circumstances in which a planned abortion would sidestep the HSA1 form being filled in and signed
 
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I know.

I'm just waiting for mbk to put it in black and white

Admit he is wrong, or to just keep showing himself up. This isn't the 1st (or the last) time he has been wrong on laws.
It's not that difficult to research. The Act itself, the text in various solicitors, doctors, nurses and midwives articles or studies, ALL say that the abortion requires two doctors approval.
FFS even that great bastion of law, Parliament says so!
 
HSA1, 2, 4 etc are nothing to do with the legal exemption. They are required under separate provision.
 
Emergency abortion.
So aside from a medical emergency taking precedence, no abortion takes place without the approval of 2 doctors signing HSA1

You keep avoiding answering what happens if form HSA1 is not signed.

We all know the answer: no sign no approval, no abortion
 
So aside from a medical emergency taking precedence, no abortion takes place without the approval of 2 doctors signing HSA1

You keep avoiding answering what happens if form HSA1 is not signed.

We all know the answer: no sign no approval, no abortion
Correct.
Even if one of the docs firgets to sign, it gets sent straight back untill it is filled in correctly. The law govering this is strict, distinct, explicit.
 
Are you sure?

Subsection (3) of this section, and so much of subsection (1) as relates to the opinion of two registered medical practitioners, shall not apply to the termination of a pregnancy by a registered medical practitioner in a case where he is of the opinion, formed in good faith, that the termination is immediately necessary to save the life or to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman.

Seems the abortion Act disagrees - but you've mostly been ignoring the rest it of it anyway to form your opinion. So why not Subsection 3
 
Are you sure?

Subsection (3) of this section, and so much of subsection (1) as relates to the opinion of two registered medical practitioners, shall not apply to the termination of a pregnancy by a registered medical practitioner in a case where he is of the opinion, formed in good faith, that the termination is immediately necessary to save the life or to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman.

Seems the abortion Act disagrees - but you've mostly been ignoring the rest it of it anyway to form your opinion. So why not Subsection 3
It fails to mention signing and dating the HSA1 form too.
It is no less important in terms of the abortion proceeding.

No approval no abortion.
 
Yes HSA1 is not mentioned in the legal exemption. The only requirement the abortion act does, is create an obligation in a separate piece of law and create an offence of wilful failure.

So now you can see, that the exemption in section 1 is not dependant on any subsequent legislation in an act that did not exist at the time.
 
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