What’s going on in France?

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Yes, we have had more total deaths than France since the pandemic began (assuming they are using the same counting methods as the U.K. - are they? ) but what I’d call the current 'death rate' is a lot less. Yesterday France had 308 deaths attributed to Covid and the U.K. had 51.

France deaths in last 7 days: 1992

UK deaths in last 7 days: 328

Hence my first post in this thread - "They are going into lockdown just as we are coming out of ours? Why? Is it because they were slow on the vaccine uptake? Will the rest of Europe, including us, follow?"

The 'death rate' at any one time is pretty meaningless because the peaks and troughs, or waves, of the pandemic affects different countries at different times and at different rates.

Obviously the percentage of the population vaccinated does appear to be a major effect. One would expect that, and I would have thought it was utterly obvious, otherwise the urgency of the vaccine rollout would be pointless. But you can only vaccinate with the doses that you have available. France, and I assume other EU countries, are ensuring that both doses can be administered, or will be available to be administered.

Here is a website with probably all the answers to your questions.
https://www.sortiraparis.com/news/i...ines-used-everything-you-need-to-know/lang/en

 

[Notch7]

"They are going into lockdown just as we are coming out of ours? Why? Is it because they were slow on the vaccine uptake? Will the rest of Europe, including us, follow?"

variants are the cause of the 3rd wave in France currently -UK variant mostly but also African variant and Brazil.
clearly vaccinated numbers in France havent reached a critical mass yet. theyve vaccinated 8.5 million people (mostly over 75s 5.5million and healthcare workers 2.2million)
theyve certainly vaccinated enough to have an impact on hospital admissions and deaths


the UK has now done at least a single dose to most of the vulnerable cohorts -so fingers crossed we shouldnt see hospital admissions soaring like previous waves.
I certainly wouldn't rule out further lockdowns though -the govt is being sensibly cautious

 

[EddieM]

variants are the cause of the 3rd wave in France currently -UK variant mostly but also African variant and Brazil.
clearly vaccinated numbers in France havent reached a critical mass yet. theyve vaccinated 8.5 million people (mostly over 75s 5.5million and healthcare workers 2.2million)
theyve certainly vaccinated enough to have an impact on hospital admissions and deaths


the UK has now done at least a single dose to most of the vulnerable cohorts -so fingers crossed we shouldnt see hospital admissions soaring like previous waves.
I certainly wouldn't rule out further lockdowns though -the govt is being sensibly cautious

It wouldn't surprise me. I'm dismayed at the displays of stupidity of people partying in parks etc, ignoring social distancing not warring face coverings etc. They're acting like it's VE day.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

variants are the cause of the 3rd wave in France currently -UK variant mostly but also African variant and Brazil.

There are also two French variants: the Breton, and the Alsation variant.
It's the very reason why no-one is safe until everyone is safe.

This Wednesday 31 March 2021 (consolidated data), 8,535,750 people have been given the first dose of the vaccine in France, namely 12.70% of the population. 2,851,057 people have been given the second dose of vaccine, namely 4.20% of the population.
https://www.sortiraparis.com/news/i...accinated-as-of-datacovid-confirmedfr/lang/en​

 

[noseall]

They're acting like it's VE day.

It might feel like that to some people. Zero work interaction and zero social interaction for weeks. Never been heard of. I have been in work every day.

 

[Dangee]

61000 new cases today. Macron is a piece of work.

 

[Dangee]

Just reading Covid data on Worldometer. It states that the French government continues to present unreliable or incorrect data almost on a daily basis.
France really is the basket case of Europe currently. I suppose Macron will blame us for that as well.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Just reading Covid data on Worldometer. It states that the French government continues to present unreliable or incorrect data almost on a daily basis.
France really is the basket case of Europe currently. I suppose Macron will blame us for that as well.

Do you think they are the only one doing that?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Sunday

61000 new cases today. Macron is a piece of work.

Tuesday
It says 8,000 on my Worldometer page today so up and down a bit.

 

[fillyboy]

Just reading Covid data on Worldometer. It states that the French government continues to present unreliable or incorrect data almost on a daily basis.
France really is the basket case of Europe currently. I suppose Macron will blame us for that as well.

Worldometer?, even more right wing than the IMF.

 

[Notch7]

It states that the French government continues to present unreliable or incorrect data almost on a daily basis.

and Dangee reports news that is a year out of date

"As of April 29, the French Government continues to report unreliable and incorrect data on almost a daily basis. On April 29, they reported a decrease of 1,417 confirmed cases compared to April 28. The Ministry of Health yesterday had reported a different figure compared to that of the Government, and even this figure was 1,504 lower than the previous day (April 27), accompanied by a note informing that they had made a mistake the previous day. For this reason, you may notice fluctuations in French data."

wot a muppet

 

[Notch7]

Macron is a piece of work.

Why?

is it his fault?

 

[fillyboy]

Why?

is it his fault?

The French are mercilessly taking the P out of Macron at the moment because he actually sees himself as an epidemiologist at the moment, so much so that he is ignoring the advice of his own Govt scientists and he's costing lives. People are getting angry out there.

Macron really is a piece of work.

 

[Dangee]

Continue on Notch. You missed a bit. But hey, you’re always missing something right in front of your eyes.
EFL, you are correct. It also lists Spain, Ireland, Italy, USA & the master of deceit...... China.

 

[Dangee]

It won’t be Macrons fault much longer though, will it Notch......
Viva Le Penn