Wood floor erupted like Vesuvius! Advice needed...

[WFRN]

To confirm what you have said. You have removed a laminate floor from the area and the sub floor was dry. You have carried out work on a boiler and there is plumbing in the area. What works have been carried on or near water pipes?

A wood floor was installed and has lifted and your dry concrete is now wet. You should not have moisture (condenstaion amounts) on the sub floor. It is very unlikely it was this wet when the installer was laying it so the moisture has appeared after the flooring was installed. This is my guess.

Did the floor lift very quickly (over night)? This is a classic sign of a leak.

A floor lifts at the weakest point (usually the middle of the floor) and is commonly no where near the source of moisture and thus the source can be difficult to find.

 

[WoodYouLike]

If I ask a guy to lay flooring on my floor he'd lay it. Simple innit?

You're talking utterly rubish in regards of this matter Joe.

Believe it from the professionals, it doens't work the way you 'developer' thinks it works.

 

[joe-90]

If I ask a guy to lay flooring on my floor he'd lay it. Simple innit?

You're talking utterly rubish in regards of this matter Joe.

Believe it from the professionals, it doens't work the way you 'developer' thinks it works.

Yes it does. If you pay someone to paint your house - they paint your house. They don't survey it first. If you pay someone to lay a floor - they lay a floor.

In effect YOU are the employer and the fitter is the employee. If you can't advise your employee correctly then that's your problem - not his.

The flooring contractor has no way of knowing the state of the substrate without digging it up. He's not psychic ya know. If you want a survey of your floor - then you pay for one and advise the fitter (your employee) of any problems.

 

[JohnD]

There are differences between a Contractor and an Employee.

 

[joe-90]

There are differences between a Contractor and an Employee.

Not when he is instructed to perform a set task. If the fitter wasn't paid to survey the state of the floor - then it's not his problem.

 

[mattysupra]

in court it comes down to the fact that if the professional fitted the floor knowing there is something not correct ie~ the subfloor, then he is to blame. Even if the consumer signed a disclaimer. And if he didn't know that there is ie~ a subfloor fault, he or she is still to blame for not following instructions / british standard ( what ever). The judge will refer to one of these for advice on correct install info for the floor. You would think that a disclaimer would cover your back but i know for a fact it does not. Your the professional at the end of the day and you fitted floor covering not following instructions / british standard (what ever) and this is how they blame it on you!

 

[WoodYouLike]

in court it comes down to the fact that if the professional fitted the floor knowing there is something not correct ie~ the subfloor, then he is to blame. Even if the consumer signed a disclaimer.

Matty, let me introduce you to Joe-90 "know-it-all-better-than-the-professionals-and-even-the-British-Standards"

 

[Softus]

Under the provisions of the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982, a supplier of a service is required to carry out that service with reasonable care and skill (and, unless agreed to the contrary, within a reasonable time and make no more than a reasonable charge).

Don't talk silly, Softus.

I wasn't. And so that you can recognise 'silly' in the future, here's a couple of examples:

There should be more lingerie designed for penguins!

We want joe-90 for Prime Minister! When do we want him? Now!

I trust you get the idea now.

The contractor does as instructed.

Quite so, although his actions are also bound by the provisions of the above statute.

Going legal would be a waste of money.

Even a legal professional would not give that advice to a client. And you're the very opposite of a legal professional.

If I were to ask a painter to paint my tatty windows - he'd paint them.

Not universally true, actually. For example, if I were that painter, I'd tell you to f*ck off and go sell some more houses, estate agent.

If I instructed a a brickie to build on my foundations he'd build on them. If I ask a guy to lay flooring on my floor he'd lay it.

I would refer the reader to the above example of the more plausible joe-90 / contractor relationship.

Simple innit?

Hmm. You certainly are.

If you pay someone to lay a floor - they lay a floor.

In effect YOU are the employer and the fitter is the employee. If you can't advise your employee correctly then that's your problem - not his.

As JohnD has already highlighted, your understanding of Employment Law appears to be non-existent, or you wouldn't have written that piece of more-than-averagely-incorrect-joe-90-tripe.

 

[mattysupra]

i like this forum

 

[joe-90]

Softus. If I employ you to dig a hole - you dig a hole. If I employ you to build a wall - you build a wall. If I employ you to lay a floor - you lay a floor. It's your floor - afterall, not mine. If I ask you to lay vinyl - you lay vinyl.

Now stop being silly and try (just for a short time) living in the world of real people where you pay them to do something and they follow your orders and do it.

 

[mattysupra]

joe i was wondering what trade are you in and are you self employed or work for someone?

 

[joe-90]

I develop property.

 

[JohnD]

An excellent response which avoids answering the questions

 

[joe-90]

That's what I do. I do the lot - everything.

 

[mattysupra]

any jobs going?