Zionism is a belief held by Zionists

[motorbiking]

So you are a liar then - you are not in the Netherlands

 

[T&G]

So you are a liar then - you are not in the Netherlands

My comments are posted on a web site outside of the Netherlands.
Therefore, IF my comments contravened the Hate Laws, the comments were posted outside of the Netherlands.
But my comments do not contravene any Hate Laws by stating the published beliefs and ambitions of a religion. If you think they do, I invite you to report my comments to the Dutch Police.

This is another case of you misinterpreting laws to suit your own ideology, and are not a true representation of the laws.

 

[T&G]

It’s probably for your own good, as the race hate laws in Holland are broader than the U.K.

In the U.K. you commit an offence if you stir hatred towards a group of people defined by race or religion or both. The definition of hate is as simple as abuse or insults for racial hatred.

For religious hatred the bar is a little higher. But that doesn’t mean you have freedom to insult or abuse people because of their religion. Here the behaviour of a person can help. For example if I dedicate my time to finding “bad” people of a race or religion and adding my own dishonest spin, I exhibit behaviour that is clearly intended to stir hatred.

For example:

Jedists like nothing more than exterminating non Jedists,

because I found an example of some bad Jedists doing bad things. I exhibit behaviour intended to stir hatred toward all Jedists.

As we have seen the courts are happy to consider “asylum seeker” as an applicable group of persons. Even though they will be made up of different colours, nationalities, ethnic groups etc.

If I recognise Jedists in the same way, I have a problem with my “Jedists like nothing more than exterminating non Jedists”.

It doesn’t matter if I call them Jedists, people from Jedi or even a place called Jedi. I have defined them as a group and I commit an offence if I stir hatred towards them. It’s not hard to get your head around surely?

C) Don't forget you are pretending you live in Holland, Himmy.

So you are a liar then - you are not in the Netherlands

It really does not matter where I am, nor what country the web site exists, if I make factual statements insult the subjects of the factual information.

Section 137e1. Any person who, for any reason other than the provision of factual information:

 

[Notch7]

if you stir hatred towards a group of people defined by race or religion or both. The definition of hate is as simple as abuse or insults for racial hatred.

criticising Israel is not stirring hatred

For example if I dedicate my time to finding “bad” people of a race or religion and adding my own dishonest spin, I exhibit behaviour that is clearly intended to stir hatred.

the state of Israel is not a race or religion

it is a state with a hard right wing government that is trying obliterate the Palestinians people

 

[ajohn]

In the U.K. you commit an offence if you stir hatred towards a group of people defined by race or religion or both. The definition of hate is as simple as abuse or insults for racial hatred.

Zionism is a racist creed so where does that leave you?

 

[JohnD]

More lies from the forum liar.

Yep, that's motorbiking the liar.

Stirring hatred towards Zionists is not protected, because they meet the definition of a race, in the public order act, particularly using the above example.

No they don't.

But you are unable to quote a sentence that says what you untruthfully claimed. Because there isn't one.

Did you think people would just believe you?

Because what you wrote is not true.

 

[motorbiking]

My comments are posted on a web site outside of the Netherlands.
Therefore, IF my comments contravened the Hate Laws, the comments were posted outside of the Netherlands.
But my comments do not contravene any Hate Laws by stating the published beliefs and ambitions of a religion. If you think they do, I invite you to report my comments to the Dutch Police.

This is another case of you misinterpreting laws to suit your own ideology, and are not a true representation of the laws.

It’s where you are, you fool.

Do you think those idiots stirring racial hatred on twitter posted on servers physically located in the U.K.

 

[motorbiking]

Yep, that's motorbiking the liar.



No they don't.

But you are unable to quote a sentence that says what you untruthfully claimed. Because there isn't one.

Did you think people would just believe you?

Because what you wrote is not true.

Tell me again why you post material claiming that people from Israel like nothing more than exterminating non Jews?

Is it because you want to stir hatred against them?

Your fake outrage about other people’s racism, is rather sad, when you can’t even look yourself in a mirror and see a racist.

 

[motorbiking]

criticising Israel is not stirring hatred


the state of Israel is not a race or religion

it is a state with a hard right wing government that is trying obliterate the Palestinians people

That will be a person or a government.

Israelis are a race within the definition of the public order act as are Jews, who are also a religion.

When you say Israel likes nothing more than exterminating non Jews.

Not only is it a lie, it is intentionally intended to stir hatred towards people from Isreal and Jews.

You cannot argue that you mean a place. A place cannot have likes or dislikes.

 

[JohnD]

Looks like motorbiking is trying to distract attention from his untrue claims about English law.

 

[JohnD]

And now he is trying to claim that you mustn't criticise the actions of a state.

 

[JohnD]

It will be interesting to see if you can find evidence to support your abusive claims.

Have you decided to pause in your attempts to falsely describe English law?

 

[ellal]

That will be a person or a government.

Israelis are a race within the definition of the public order act as are Jews, who are also a religion.

When you say Israel likes nothing more than exterminating non Jews.

Not only is it a lie, it is intentionally intended to stir hatred towards people from Isreal and Jews.

You cannot argue that you mean a place. A place cannot have likes or dislikes.

Well that has to be the biggest load of b* llux uttered about this subject!

And only in your mind can 'Isreal' just be a 'place'

'Isreal' has been voting in governments for decades that have followed/aided and abetted a policy of killing Palestinians and stealing their land - fact!

And I didn't see any reference to 'Isreal' wanting to 'exterminating non jews'.
They are of course at present according to well supported world organisations committing genocide against the Palestinians, and extending that policy into other sovereign nations!

Yet you claim that criticising those facts is intended to 'stir hatred'?

And you continue to deliberately ignore the difference between the actions of a state with religion!

Do you want the actions of a place apparently called 'Isreal' to go on unchecked and thus prevent any chance of peace in the region?

But using your nomenclature, when 'places' are allowed to do what they want at will then history tells us all we need to know about the consequences!

 

[Brigadier]

A Jedi’s actions can be criticised - correct.

Hatred against all Jedi because the actions of one or some, is a problem. Particularly, if you make dishonest claims about their motives etc.

The raison d'etre of "Jedi" has a significant bearing on one's feelings to towards them as a group though.

 

[motorbiking]

And I didn't see any reference to 'Isreal' wanting to 'exterminating non jews'.

here you go:

There's nothing Israel likes better than exterminating people who are not Jewish.