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Not necessarily. Do you think the amount of land is the only sign of winning and losing?
What you are saying is that land has nothing to do with winning or losing. Explain the following:

1. What constitutes a ukraine win
2. What constitutes a ukraine lose
3. What constitutes a russia win
4. What constitutes a russia lose
 
What you are saying is that land has nothing to do with winning or losing. Explain the following:

1. What constitutes a ukraine win
2. What constitutes a ukraine lose
3. What constitutes a russia win
4. What constitutes a russia lose
You’ll do well to get a straight answer.
 
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What you are saying is that land has nothing to do with winning or losing
You really don't need to put words in my mouth.

Land isn't the be all and end all, I don't know why you are obsessed with it.

If Russia keep Crimea, amongst other places, but NATO wipe them out with a pre-emptive nuclear strike is that a win for Vlad? He would end up with more land?
 
You really don't need to put words in my mouth.

Land isn't the be all and end all, I don't know why you are obsessed with it.

If Russia keep Crimea, amongst other places, but NATO wipe them out with a pre-emptive nuclear strike is that a win for Vlad? He would end up with more land?
If land grabber Vlad gets nuked, he loses. Is that acceptable? You wipe russia out and you get to live, is that right?
 
If this expected (?) offensive goes badly for Poo tin his days will be numbered (imo)

He would be well
Advised to heed what happened to that Romanian fruit cake ??
 
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