I think you need to look more closely at the posts you're so keen to try and discredit. Your decision to post (and its ferocity) seems more dependant on the poster rather than the content IMO.
A bit pointless.
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I think you need to look more closely at the posts you're so keen to try and discredit. Your decision to post (and its ferocity) seems more dependant on the poster rather than the content IMO.
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That necrophiliac Sparky took 4 million pictures of himself committing "offences" on corpses over a 12 year period but he was charged with only 33. Along with murder charges and a handful of other charges, he got a whole life sentence. It is known for police to make a sample case where it is not practical to investigate every single one. In the case with the sparky, the police could probably dedicate a whole team for years and investigate each abuse but the sentence would not get any more harsh.
I agree with Mottie on this one, the man will serve the most harsh penalty available by law and adding further charges won't achieve anything useful. I'd get closure by the fact he will spend the rest of his days behind bars, it wouldn't make the closure any more so by adding more charges.
I agree with Mottie on this one, the man will serve the most harsh penalty available by law and adding further charges won't achieve anything useful. I'd get closure by the fact he will spend the rest of his days behind bars, it wouldn't make the closure any more so by adding more charges.
At last, but only slightly!!!
So never forget, it could be a loved one next that suffers this type of hideous crime and I bet you every penny you do not have that you won't certainly be saying what was cringeworthy stated in the first post, fact!!!
What is incredible is that the person is still defending the indefensible, fact!!
Ask any victim of this heinous crime it is a crime if they see this as stated by the person in the first post.
It is a proven fact that the vast majority of people want their crime investigation and that is a fact!! To write off
something like this, the four victims may never get closure and all victims of crime need justice!!
Is anyone here prepared to defend the statement if it was their loved one, I thought not!! The bottom line every victim
needs their perpetrator bought to justice and that is a fact!!
Victims want justice, especially crimes like this and to make a statement like the person has then carried on defending the indefensible is just ludicrously ridiculously IMO..
Btw, my comments/opinions ARE NOT "worthless" ok!!! They count as much as anyone here!!
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The fact remains most victims of crime like this almost always women are the victims, they do want
the crime committed against they recognised and the person charged and taken to court.
Read the link I posted early from the Guardian re victims of this type of crime.
How would you feel it is was someone close to you that was the victim there are four of them. I hope you are never a victim of any crime or the ones you love but I've been a victim of a couple of different crimes and trust me, me and my family wanted them in court even though one of them had something more serious against them. It is my right to see justice and it's not a waste of time/money etc
I bet you if those four laddies/victims had not wanted the case in court the police/cps would not have gone down that route - please read the link I posted earlier re vicitms of this type of heinous crime.
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The bloke should have been executed when he was found guilty of this barbaric crime imo
as for all this closure nonsense
how about allowing the victims decide some suitable punishment
??? that can range from confronting the bloke / talking
or some type of pain infliction carried out by suitable volunteers ? Skilled in the art of pain infliction ??
as for all this closure nonsense
how about allowing the victims decide some suitable punishment
??? that can range from confronting the bloke / talking
or some type of pain infliction carried out by suitable volunteers ? Skilled in the art of pain infliction ??
it need not be to barbaric as such
the victims could take turns in
Tazoring the fruit cake every other day ??
For sure but he has to be found guilty or accept he carried out those crimes. in the first place.
Have you read the link I posted how victims of this type of crime feel - I think it was "feeling ignored"
I would never post a thread like this but let's say if I did and it was pointed out to me, I'm more than certain I'd accept that I made a mistake and in hindsight, certain crimes do warrant going to court etc.
These four vicitims - not sure how it works but they may be due criminal damages if/when this vile cim is found guilty but I may be wrong.
Another point, there would not be this case if the victims did not feel strongly about it.
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Mrs Bodged had some knickers stolen off the line some years ago, she never bothered reporting it because the old boy stealing them had already been caught (he was later charged). He got a 3 month suspended sentence so no point in reporting something that the police were already aware of and had processed him for. The guy had been stealing knickers for years but the police just used one case for the prosecution, it was a simple one for them because he was caught on camera. He got kicked out of his house too. Given that he was only charged with theft, he got off lightly but the police couldn't really prove he was having a Tommy Tank in the stolen items and adding 1 more pair of pants would not have increased the sentence....
All the respondents to this post appear to be blokes so, in my humble opinion, cannot have any idea what a woman/girl is feeling/feels when these attacks happen. A male being 'flashed' by another male can be just as traumatic to that male as it would to a female, however, males are supposed to be macho/tough so most continue with their lives and 'laugh it off' with their mates.
Females are not the same. To the 'average' female men are considered the more stronger/dominant of the species, and as such, being 'attacked' in whatever manner by a male will make them wary of other males. It will take them a long time, sometimes never, for them to come to terms with any incident of this nature, whether it be contact or none contact, and in some it can dwell in the subconscious for ever more. There will be a feeling that the perpetrator may do it again to them or even inform others of what they have done and to whom. Most men cannot begin to comprehend what these women feel/are feeling and, God forbid, if anything of this nature happened to one of their close female relatives/friends they simply wouldn't know how to help them or deal with the situation.
Regardless of how long someone may be imprisoned for, if they can be identified and proven to have committed other crimes of a similar nature, women/girls do get some closure from knowing the person who 'attacked' them will be punished for it and, as in this case, they have been publicly named. The possible knock on of this could be that other women, who he has possibly attacked, will also now feel vindicated in their accusations which may, or may not, have been investigated,
The bottom line is that when these people are discovered to have committed other/further crimes, their victims often feel vindicated and this can help them to move forward with their lives with a little bit of confidence.
I seriously hope that female relatives/friends of any of you guys who 'poo-pooed' the original post, never have to deal with such an offence against them.
Females are not the same. To the 'average' female men are considered the more stronger/dominant of the species, and as such, being 'attacked' in whatever manner by a male will make them wary of other males. It will take them a long time, sometimes never, for them to come to terms with any incident of this nature, whether it be contact or none contact, and in some it can dwell in the subconscious for ever more. There will be a feeling that the perpetrator may do it again to them or even inform others of what they have done and to whom. Most men cannot begin to comprehend what these women feel/are feeling and, God forbid, if anything of this nature happened to one of their close female relatives/friends they simply wouldn't know how to help them or deal with the situation.
Regardless of how long someone may be imprisoned for, if they can be identified and proven to have committed other crimes of a similar nature, women/girls do get some closure from knowing the person who 'attacked' them will be punished for it and, as in this case, they have been publicly named. The possible knock on of this could be that other women, who he has possibly attacked, will also now feel vindicated in their accusations which may, or may not, have been investigated,
The bottom line is that when these people are discovered to have committed other/further crimes, their victims often feel vindicated and this can help them to move forward with their lives with a little bit of confidence.
I seriously hope that female relatives/friends of any of you guys who 'poo-pooed' the original post, never have to deal with such an offence against them.
Wrong, as stated in my post here I've met at least a couple of women and posted a news item from a respected source. Importantly, like most men I had a mother, mother-inlaws - female siblings/cousins/aunts/many female friends and female clients where we have discussed many things inc how ladies are treated when it comes to crime against women of a sexual nature. To be clear one does not need to be a lady to understand on oe man to understand a man and that is a fact!!
Thank you!!
Wrong again, hence the police action resulting in CPS action in this instance X 4.
The bottom, very bottom line. The four victims clearly, very, very clearly do not feel one bit "vindicated" hence the police request to the CPS to take this decisive action due to the concerns these four victims have
A question for you, please feel free to swerve - what bits of my previous post did you not comprehend and what bit of the police action resulting in the CPS action did you not???? Are you saying the four victims feel "vindicated" so why the police and subsequent CPS action??
The two females victims of sexual I know of were nervous wrecks and feared to go out alone and finding and charging and eventually finding guilty the person that was already in jail for something else made them feel vindicated know that they were listened to and their concerns were acted on and not treated as collateral damage that was not worth pursuing to as stated in the first post. To be clear I'm not talking about this case but similar cases
I am 100% against the first posters every post here on this thread and their inability to understand the facts why the police acted and then the CPS and your inability to understand
how victims of this type of crime feel as I had already stated I knew people in situitons similar to this and then posted a link talking about situations like this.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/cps-authorises-indecent-exposure-charges-against-wayne-couzens
Thank you!!
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Hardly. He was sentenced to a whole of life sentence. In addition to the flashing offences, perhaps they could find a couple of littering charges against him too?
What was the crime against you and how did
The crux of this action by the police & CPS is clear. It is NOT as stated by the person in the first post. Clearly, the four victims want the alleged criminal tried for the heinous crimes against them in order to bring to closure their nasty experiences. Additionally and I've said this before, possibly comp, not sure.
I've been clear from the outset why action is being taken, IE the four victims want justice, fact!!
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