A Blatant Lie by BJ about Trade between NI and GB.

[fillyboy]

Northern Ireland is pro EU

Hmmmm, they were. I'm not so sure they are now. Plenty of remainers I speak to have seen the EU in their true colours. People can change their minds, as you well know.

 

[transam]

Suspend this article 16 caper

tell the EU and French to go and do one



blimey getting pushed around by a bunch of foreigners over groceries

 

[Notch7]

Hmmmm, they were. I'm not so sure they are now. Plenty of remainers I speak to have seen the EU in their true colours. People can change their minds, as you well know.

Nah they've seen Johnson in his true colours -NI wont forget they were thrown under a bus

brexit has certainly increased support for the EU and the huge advantages of the Single Market

 

[Vinty]

Northern Ireland is pro EU and that will increase not reduce.

The whole of Ireland will now be able to win plenty of new business that GB had in the Single Market.
It's a great opportunity for Island of Ireland.

You are delusional.

 

[Vinty]

Nah they've seen Johnson in his true colours -NI wont forget they were thrown under a bus

brexit has certainly increased support for the EU and the huge advantages of the Single Market

You don't know what you are talking about.
N. Ireland is in a worse position now than it was before Brexit.
Most of N. I. trade is with GB, most of food and other goods comes from GB, with this barrier a lot of stuff cant be imported, tarrifs are payable on other goods, one major haulier is losing 80 grand a week in business.

 

[Vinty]

Brexit is a de facto annexation of NI.

I am glad we agree on something.

annexation
/ˌanəkˈseɪʃn,ˌanɛkˈseɪʃn/
Learn to pronounce

noun

1. the action of annexing something, especially territory.
   "the annexation of Austria by Nazi Germany in 1938"

 

[noseall]

N. Ireland is in a worse position now than it was before Brexit.

True, but nobody cares.

 

[Notch7]

You don't know what you are talking about.
N. Ireland is in a worse position now than it was before Brexit.
Most of N. I. trade is with GB, most of food and other goods comes from GB, with this barrier a lot of stuff cant be imported, tarrifs are payable on other goods, one major haulier is losing 80 grand a week in business.

Yes NI is in a worse position than it was before Brexit.
If you put significant trade barriers between 2 trading nations, you get problems.

Theresa May had some integrity and offered the only option: GB and NI stay in SM and CU.

But no, brexers couldn't accept that....so they voted for Johnson who had no quarms about chucking NI under a bus to win power

 

[Vinty]

Listened to the radio this morning, a cheese manufacturer in Wales or somewhere has had to lay off workers because he can't send cheese to N.Ireland anymore because of the EU regulations.
Another bloke in Perth Scotland can't send garden plants because under EU laws British soil is now illegal in N.I.
This is just the beginning ,so far there have been a number of easements to allow trade to flow but on 1st April (appropriately enough April fools Day) the full implementation of this Protocol kicks in.
Michael Gove has been in Brussels humiliating himself by begging the EU for a few crumbs to give to N.I.
According to the BBC the EU has told him No, the rules are the rules.

 

[Vinty]

Theresa May had some integrity and offered the only option: GB and NI stay in SM and CU.

I agree with that.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There are provisions in this N.I. Protocol which could solve this problem.
Thats if Boris has the integrity to use them

That's that idea out the window then.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You are delusional.

Run the referendum and take away the guesswork.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You don't know what you are talking about.
N. Ireland is in a worse position now than it was before Brexit.
Most of N. I. trade is with GB, most of food and other goods comes from GB, with this barrier a lot of stuff cant be imported, tarrifs are payable on other goods, one major haulier is losing 80 grand a week in business.

Simple answer, import the groceries from EU, no tariffs, no checks, no delays, no paperwork, better quality, cheaper, wider range, etc.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I am glad we agree on something.

annexation
/ˌanəkˈseɪʃn,ˌanɛkˈseɪʃn/
Learn to pronounce

noun

1. the action of annexing something, especially territory.
   "the annexation of Austria by Nazi Germany in 1938"

Germany didn't annexe Austria by force. Austrians waved Hitler in with flowers.

Adolf Hitler entering Austria (12-15.03.) Hitler arriving at Braunau . Welcome by the local population12.march 1938-

The majority of NI citizens may well have welcomed the 'annexation' of NI by EU. They didn't want Brexit. It was forced on them by the Unionists.
Run the referendum and we'll know, but we'll get some indication during the forthcoming elections in 2022.
The Tory minister wants that election delayed. I wonder why. DUP been making calls about imaginary threats again?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

he can't send cheese to N.Ireland anymore because of the EU regulations.
Another bloke in Perth Scotland can't send garden plants because under EU laws British soil is now illegal in N.I.

That's not accurate. These items can still be sent, they just need mounds of new paperwork which makes it uneconomic.
Paperwork and checks which BJ denied would exist.