Albanians and crime a real problem.

Yafo said:
Did you not read?

I don't like, support, or want, any criminals. I don't understand why UK criminals are seen as less bad than any others.

Give the police, security and intelligence the support they need, rather than pretending it is only a "foriegner" issue.

There have been foriegn criminals just as long as there have been home grown ones.
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I think you still don't understand. It's not that UK criminals are less bad - more that we've enough of the buggers in this country without letting any criminals stay in the UK if from overseas.

Is it a 'forigner issue'? I don't think so. I don't have a problem with criminals being deported, nor do I have a problem with criminals being stopped from entering the UK. The USA are picky about letting people in with a criminal record, seems sensible to me.

However, the courts seems to have a bit of a problem with allowing the UK to deport criminals if they've made a life in the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...stem-for-deporting-foreign-criminals-unlawful
 
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sodthisforfun said:
I think you still don't understand. It's not that UK criminals are less bad - more that we've enough of the buggers in this country without letting any criminals stay in the UK if from overseas.

Is it a 'forigner issue'? I don't think so. I don't have a problem with criminals being deported, nor do I have a problem with criminals being stopped from entering the UK. The USA are picky about letting people in with a criminal record, seems sensible to me.

However, the courts seems to have a bit of a problem with allowing the UK to deport criminals if they've made a life in the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...stem-for-deporting-foreign-criminals-unlawful
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The UK government has always had the right to refuse entry to anybody.

So who is at fault? The EU or the UK? We have never lost control of our borders.
 
Yafo said:
The UK government has always had the right to refuse entry to anybody.

So who is at fault? The EU or the UK? We have never lost control of our borders.
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Are you doing that side-stepping thing again?

And please, have a gander with the link I put up. Thanks.
 
Brigadier said:
Strawman. No one said that.
It's just a case that there will always be criminals, some of whom have an absolute right to be in the UK. And some do not / ought not have.
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Bodd has said that, he wants all criminals to be UK ones. So, yes, it has been said.

The right to be in the UK is down to the UK government, is it not
 
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sodthisforfun said:
Are you doing that side-stepping thing again?

And please, have a gander with the link I put up. Thanks.
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No thanks. You tell me why known criminals were allowed in?

Prevention is better than cure, no ?
 
Yafo said:
Bodd has said that, he wants all criminals to be UK ones. So, yes, it has been said.

The right to be in the UK is down to the UK government, is it not
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RIGHT. That's very different to British criminals are better than others. Or that British criminals are less bad that you wrote.

I saw that you misunderstood the other day. I even said something to you about it and you ignored it.
Yafo said:
I dont understand why anybody would think british criminals are better than others. To me, criminals are criminals. The only difference being the crimes committed.
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sodthisforfun said:
Nobody said that British criminals are better as far as I know so that's probably why you don't understand it.. And please explain what you mean by 'the only difference being the crimes committed'.
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Yafo said:
No thanks. You tell me why known criminals were allowed in?

Prevention is better than cure, no ?
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How do you account for the people who committed a crime once on British soil? Or the ones who have never got a criminal record in their own, got away with it?
Prevention is a cure, but only partly cures that illness.
I don't have a problem with people being kicked out of the UK once they've committed a serious crime.
 
sodthisforfun said:
RIGHT. That's very different to British criminals are better than others. Or that British criminals are less bad that you wrote.

I saw that you misunderstood the other day. I even said something to you about it and you ignored it.
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Does that really need a reply? Seriously?

A criminal is a criminal.

Murder is worse than gbh, is worse than burglary, is worse than stealing a loaf of bread.

All bad, but different levels. Does it matter who comitted them ?
 
Yafo said:
Does that really need a reply? Seriously?

A criminal is a criminal.

Murder is worse than gbh, is worse than burglary, is worse than stealing a loaf of bread.

All bad, but different levels. Does it matter who comitted them ?
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You surely need to understand what people are saying in order to comment? Otherwise you end up saying stuff irrelevant, looking like a numpty and just getting on people's tits.
 
sodthisforfun said:
How do you account for the people who committed a crime once on British soil? Or the ones who have never got a criminal record in their own, got away with it?
Prevention is a cure, but only partly cures that illness.
I don't have a problem with people being kicked out of the UK once they've committed a serious crime.
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If the had no previous, and comitted their only crime in the UK, then it is our responsibilty to prosecute and lock them up. Deporting afterwards, maybe? Different set of rules maybe ?
 
Yafo said:
If the had no previous, and comitted their only crime in the UK, then it is our responsibilty to prosecute and lock them up. Deporting afterwards, maybe? Different set of rules maybe ?
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Have a look at the newspaper article I put up. It addresses this.
 
sodthisforfun said:
You surely need to understand what people are saying in order to comment? Otherwise you end up saying stuff irrelevant, looking like a numpty and just getting on people's tits.
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I thought it was you that said gasbanni was allowed a voice, even though he is inherently racist.

Am I not allowed a voice ?

Edit

I seriously didn't think your comment actually needed a reply. It was that transparent. Who is the numpty? Not just looks like 1 ?
 
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