Albanians and crime a real problem.

Yafo said:
I thought it was you that said gasbanni was allowed a voice, even though he is inherently racist.

Am I not allowed a voice ?
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Where have I told you to shut up? I am just pointing out that it is better to join in a discussion if you understand what's being discussed.

You really do have a problem with reading.
 
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A better title for the thread would be "Some Albanian criminals are a bigger problem than many other criminals".
The title as it is suggests that all Albanians are a problem. Classic Tabloidspeak - attack an entire group while acting like you're highlighting a serious problem.

The article talks about intimidation. The Krays were famous for that. But as they're white, we just make multiple films about them and and gloss over the fact that they were hardened criminals and murderers.

But, funny how we treat different groups, isn't it? Snatch, Goodfellas, Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels, to name but a few, all make out gangsters to be those jolly fun guys that wave guns about for effect, and sometimes kill people, but only when they really deserved it. Then people get all surprised when real gangsters turn out to be complete ****s. Drives me nuts.

Imagine if this headline ran in Scotland: "English and crime a real problem."
 
Also, the krays was made to make money: wouldn't have made anything like as much, if it had been about some foreign crims no one had heard of.....
 
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sodthisforfun said:
However, the courts seems to have a bit of a problem with allowing the UK to deport criminals if they've made a life in the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...stem-for-deporting-foreign-criminals-unlawful
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sodthisforfun said:
Have a look at the newspaper article I put up. It addresses this.
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This ruling is that the government has a policy of not allowing appeals until the deportee has been deported.
The court said that appeals must be allowed prior to deportation. Simply because it is almost impossible to appeal from abroad.
 
IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
This ruling is that the government has a policy of not allowing appeals until the deportee has been deported.
The court said that appeals must be allowed prior to deportation. Simply because it is almost impossible to appeal from abroad.
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And your point being...?
Why should a convicted criminal be allowed to appeal in the UK? If they make the decision to rape, murder, deal drugs or whatever, why should their rights matter?

Why should we be responsible for their ability to appeal from overseas?
 
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Yafo said:
I don't like, support, or want, any criminals. I don't understand why UK criminals are seen as less bad than any others.
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Nor do I.


[QUOTE="Yafo, post: 4208370, member: 257040"]Give the police, security and intelligence the support they need,[/QUOTE]

Totally agree.

Yafo said:
There have been foriegn criminals just as long as there have been home grown ones.
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I know because I've been a foreign immigrant that you go to a foreign land to improve your life. Some to escape the lawlessness of their homeland.

For example the good people of Albania don't want the scum following them. On the other hand have to accept that their adopted home will also have scum.

Every country has its home grown scum importing new rotten blood will not improve that unless you think them killing each other is the way to do it. Like fighting fire with fire.
 
JohnD said:
Can you really not think of any reason why appeals are allowed? For anyone?
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They are not being stopped, they are allowed. I never said they weren't being allowed. I would help if you read the whole sentence and quote it completely.
 
sodthisforfun said:
They are not being stopped, they are allowed. I never said they weren't being allowed. I would help if you read the whole sentence and quote it completely.
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They are allowed after they have been deported.
It is almost impossible to appeal from abroad, for obvious reasons.
 
IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
They are allowed after they have been deported.
It is almost impossible to appeal from abroad, for obvious reasons.
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I know. I read the article I put up.

But why is it the UK's responsibility to provide an easy way for a criminal to appeal? Is it not the responsibility of the criminal? They are the ones who did the criminal act after all, nobody made them do it. If they cannot find the money to appeal then don't do the crime? Bit like the stupid Brits who drug smuggle in Thailand then wonder why they get locked up for life or sentenced to death. Don't do the crime if not willing to take the consequences.
 
EFLImpudence said:
Do you think that applies to all muslim countries?
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I've been to many a Muslim country and met many a good Muslim person. I think the last thing they want is the filth following and sharing their dream. Because that's what it's to some It's a dream. To some it's an opportunity for richer pickings
 
I'll take that as a "Yes" then.

I merely asked the question as lots on here do not think that way.
 
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