If it's so bad, they can always go back to where they came from."One asylum seeker told the BBC it was like a prison and felt there wasn't enough room to accommodate up to 500 people onboard, as the government plans.
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"An Afghan asylum seeker, whom the BBC is not identifying, said: "The sound of locks and security checks gives me the feeling of entering Alcatraz prison.
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"My roommate panicked in the middle of the night and felt like he was drowning. There are people among us who have been given heavy drugs for depression by the doctor here."
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Bibby Stockholm: Asylum seekers describe life on barge
Fifteen men boarded the government's new accommodation barge for asylum seekers in Dorset on Monday.www.bbc.com
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Thank you for your suggestion, Lee Anderson.
Send them back to torture, murder, persecution, etc.
That's very British of you.
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What makes them illegal?
Some flew here legally on a plane, and then requested asylum. What law have they broken?
So what's the alternative then?"One asylum seeker told the BBC it was like a prison and felt there wasn't enough room to accommodate up to 500 people onboard, as the government plans.
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"An Afghan asylum seeker, whom the BBC is not identifying, said: "The sound of locks and security checks gives me the feeling of entering Alcatraz prison.
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"My roommate panicked in the middle of the night and felt like he was drowning. There are people among us who have been given heavy drugs for depression by the doctor here."
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Bibby Stockholm: Asylum seekers describe life on barge
Fifteen men boarded the government's new accommodation barge for asylum seekers in Dorset on Monday.www.bbc.com
I notice on tv progs or when reading articles, folk are good at saying 'it's a disgrace the way they're treated!!' however when the question is then posed re where should they be housed the very same folk are good at being evasive in giving an answer.
Rightly or wrongly, the processing efficiency of these peoples claims is very slow, meaning they need to be housed somewhere in the interim. If we take the stock response of 'well we need to speed that process up' out of the equation, where do we house them?
Take the example of the guy who said he felt the room was too small and it reminded him of having to hide from the Taliban or whoever it was. What do we do with him? Put him in a larger family room in a hotel? Give him a more spacious apartment/flat?
This is the question that many talking heads and politicians want to avoid. Where do we house these people?
I'd assert if someone is genuinely fleeing persecution or something equally bad, they'd be grateful for a clean, safe room and basic board. Not saying 'this is rubbish, that's rubbish, we deserve better.'
Maybe the government should take over some new build housing schemes and let the migrants stay there until their claims are settled. Also, give them an average pay UK job in the interim. Would that appease the do-gooders?
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Day 1: Thank you so much for taking me in neighbour. I simply can't believe my house fell down yesterday, leaving me with nowhere to go and no shelter or food.
Day 5: Emmm, no offence neighbour but I think I'll need to move on. Why? Well to be honest the room you gave me is a bit on the small side. And no en-suite, what's all that about? And the meals you're dishing up to me aren't the best.
Day 5: Emmm, no offence neighbour but I think I'll need to move on. Why? Well to be honest the room you gave me is a bit on the small side. And no en-suite, what's all that about? And the meals you're dishing up to me aren't the best.
The "crisis" of housing so many asylum seekers was created by the Tory government.
They failed to process the asylum seekers. They preferred to manufacture a "housing crisis". I'd better call that an "accomodation crisis" in case someone starts making spurious claims about them being given council houses.
It should never have been allowed to happen.
The government should have funded the asylum process properly, it would have been far cheaper to process the claimants properly rather than to accomodate them to this extent.
Your theatrical scenarios are exactly what the Tory government created, an "accomodation crisis" for dog whistle headlines.
You're doing the exact thing I referred to, avoiding the question.
Forget who did what wrong, failures here, failures there. Where do we house these people today, now?
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Response options.
Responsible Person answer option 1: It is what it is unfortunately, but we are working hard to process your claim. You'll be informed whether you will be granted asylum shortly and be advised of the next steps then.
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Responsible Person answer option 2: It is what it is unfortunately, but we have an enormous backlog and are trying to process your claim. You'll be informed whether you will be granted asylum in the next 6 years and be advised of the next steps then. It is better than being persecuted, so suck it up and make friends with your roommate.
If I build a wall, but fail to fund the tools, etc, to build it safely and securely, it's my responsibility to fix it.
I could blame anyone and everyone else for my lack of foresight and foolish decisions. But it's still my responsibility to correct my mistakes.
So it is with the current "accomodation crisis" the government created the crisis, it's the government's responsibility to fix it.
To expect others to come up with cheap, easy fixes will only exacerbate the problems.
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The "accommodation crisis" is caused by an influx of around 600,000 souls (net migration 2022) coming to live in the UK every year. Even if the looney left was in charge, that number of people would cause a major accommodation crisis.
Think about it - that is a city the size of Glasgow or Leeds, it is not just enough homes for 600,000, you need everything else that supports a population of that size, Hospitals, Shops, Police, Roads, Factories, Swimming Pools, Parks, refuge collection, Land fill, Water, Gas ....
There is no way we can produce a city that size year after year - and if th Do-Gooders get there way and make migration simple and easy, that number will double or trebele - a new London every 3 or 4 years! It is not even remotely feasible.
Migrant enthusiasts need to think on and try and apply a little common sense to what they are wishing for.
Up here (Scotland) the SNP are or were tentatively floating the idea of building one or two new towns up north, predominantly to house migrants.
The SNP are good at waxing lyrical about how welcoming the Scots are, how we'd welcome more migration. You even get the sense they mean much more. MMmmm, I wonder. For a start, they don't speak for all of Scotland's citizens. Secondly, whilst we are indeed a welcoming nation, I do wonder if that would start to wear thin if the incoming numbers increased at a much more accelerated rate.
As I've said before though, nations around the world will need to think longer term about all of this strategy wise. If the stuff on climate etc is to be believed, we ain't seen nothing yet in terms of numbers wanting to enter the UK legally or otherwise.
While we're at it, how about a limit of 1 child per family too, until the Tories get back on top of things?
You're being hysterical and disingenuous, Munroast.
The percentage of asylum seekers arriving by boat is about 3.8% of all immigrants.
"In 2022, 45,755 people arrived in the UK by small boat according to government figures. This means small boats arrivals amount to 3.8% of overall immigration to the UK which was 1.2 million in 2022. "
What is the Illegal Migration Act?
What the Illegal Migration Act means for refugees and asylum seekers coming to the UK.
3.8% of all immigrants makes you figure of 600,000 look hysterically ridiculous.
Even if we took 3.8% of total immigration it is still only about 45,000, still making your figure of 600,000 looking disingenuous.
Now if we look at your comparison for new cities, the population of Glasgow was about 1,200,000, double your ridiculous, imagined, quoted figure for the annual arrival of boat people. Leeds has over 800,000 people.
Even your ridiculous figures look even sillier against actual data.
I suggest you take a lesson from Farage. At least his comments have a tiny fraction of credibility about them.
And you suggest that those who display some humanity towards asylum seekers need some common sense?
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