Americans and their fixation with easy access to guns?

[noseall]

One thing that a lot of people entering into this threads debate need to do is have a reality check

Reality?
We saw that the other day when 17 students were dead within a few minutes.

 

[noseall]

Right to bare arms is.............there for a reason.

".....The Second Amendment was written 241 years ago when the United States did not have a centralised military and needed guns to keep and preserve a well-regulated militia.

This is far from the case in the 21st century....."

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

If not armed teachers then how about armed Police?

Still not the answer:

An armed officer assigned to the Florida school where a gunman killed 17 people last week stood outside the building during the shooting and did not intervene, the local sheriff says.

School resource officers are police officers who are responsible for safety and crime prevention in schools, the US government says.

There are between 14,000 and 20,000 such officers in the US, according to the National Association of School Resource Officers.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43164634

 

[durhamplumber]

Arm all teachers.....Save us from US

 

[Brigadier]

A country in disarray.
Perhaps we should invade?

 

[KenGMac]

OK arm the teachers, fine so far, or is it, who has asked the teachers if they want to carry a concealed weapon?

Scenario?--- there is a shoot out in a school somewhere [in America] --where else??

Two teachers corner the rogue gunman shoot and disable him / her so far so good that is what was intended [I presume]

In burst a Swat team and on seeing two non uniformed individuals with handguns, guess what the Swat team take them out, the Perp is only wounded?

Just as I say a scenario??

Ken.

 

[noseall]

There are also large numbers of teachers forced to breaking point by unruly pupils, this often boils over. I would not want my sprogs in a classroom with an armed unstable teacher.
Trump is a complete nutter.

 

[Brigadier]

Trump is a complete nutter.

Millions thought him the ideal candidate too: no wonder the US has such a poor image worldwide.

 

[noseall]

Gullible, easily influenced

Millions

 

[Brigadier]

Gullible, easily influenced

.....with the right to own and carry guns.....

 

[JohnD]

this vid helps explain

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10215746630721538

 

[JohnD]

and here's one about control

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156340033558714

Disgruntled schoolboy seeks revenge? No prob.

 

[durhamplumber]

So presumably the gun lobby argue that if everyone has a gun then the US will be safe from gun crime...or much better off.....everyone from aged 16?.10?...5? .
Scary that millions of people think more guns is the answer......more scary that somehow that is the answer and I am barking MAD

 

[bernardgreen]

Suicide by cop is often overlooked as a reason for a mass shooting incident

quoting from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop

There are two broad categories of "suicide by cop". The first is when someone has committed a crime and is being pursued by the police and decides that they would rather die than be arrested. These people may not otherwise be suicidal but may simply decide that life is not worth living if they are incarcerated and thus will provoke police to kill them. The second version involves people who are already contemplating suicide and who decide that provoking law enforcement into killing them is the best way to act on their desires. These individuals may commit a crime with the specific intention of provoking a law enforcement response.

 

[JohnD]

trump thinks that armed teachers will deter these murdering nutters.

Lets think...

"If I take my assault rifle to school and shoot kids, I will either get shot by the cops, or shoot myself, or I will spend the rest of my life in jail. But wait! I might get shot by a teacher instead! That makes all the difference...."