Angela Rayner

[JonathanM]

What are you suggesting is out of time? Tax or fraud or both?

The police are only investigating the alleged electoral offence. You have said that yourself, more than once. But the deadline for prosecuting any electoral offence, passed more than seven years ago.

 

[motorbiking]

How so?

 

[Notch7]

How so?

Electoral regulator offences are time limited to 2 years

At least that’s what I heard, not sure where to look to confirm it

 

[JonathanM]

How so?

S176 Representation of the People Act. There was an article in the FT a couple of days ago. There is a two year deadline on laying the charge with the magistrates, from the day the offence took place.

 

[denso13]

"That and everything else makes me reasonably certain that he has avoided around £3.7m in tax."

Nadhim Zahawi - the whole story

UPDATE: this was written on 19 January, and I haven’t updated it. We subsequently learned (thanks to the Guardian) that Zahawi had been charged a large penalty. And we now know, thanks to Sir Laurie…

taxpolicy.org.uk

And of course he used his money for expensive lawyers to threaten libel law against anyone who investigated him. Ange can't afford this.

 

[motorbiking]

Her bezzy mate is a lawyer.

 

[JonathanM]

How so?

176 Time limit for prosecutions.​

(1)A proceeding against a person in respect of [F1any offence under any provision contained in or made under this Act] shall be commenced within one year after the offence was committed

(2B)The magistrates' court may extend the time within which proceedings must be commenced in pursuance of subsection (1) above to not more than 24 months after the offence was committed.

This is possibly why AR knows she won't be found guilty

Representation of the People Act 1983

An Act to consolidate the Representation of the People Acts of 1949, 1969, 1977, 1978, and 1980, the Electoral Registers Acts of 1949 and 1953, the Elections (Welsh Forms) Act 1964, Part III of the Local Government Act 1972, sections 6 to 10 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, the...

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[denso13]

Her bezzy mate is a lawyer.

Poor Ange, it gets worse...

 

[noseall]

Her bezzy mate is a lawyer.

She deffo can't afford Sir Keir.

 

[motorbiking]

I don’t think that helps her. More getting away with it than being not guilty

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I don’t think that helps her. More getting away with it than being not guilty

It is really hurting isn't it.

Why don't others issues hurt you in the same way?

 

[JonathanM]

Now followed up in the Indy

Mr Wortley described the police probe as “completely pointless”, saying: “Why waste money on investigating something absolutely time-barred? They would not do it for (Road Traffic Act) matters nearly a decade after it could be prosecuted.”

“It is not the role of the police to investigate something that could never be charged.”

 

[JonathanM]

I don’t think that helps her. More getting away with it than being not guilty

But why are the police investigating, knowing it is a total waste of time? It looks like the governing party have forced them to do this. That can't be good.

 

[JonathanM]

I don’t think that helps her. More getting away with it than being not guilty

You said yourself, that AR will use the lack of any prosecution on the electoral offence to say she did nothing wrong. Now we know that no prosecution is an absolute certainty.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You said yourself, that AR will use the lack of any prosecution on the electoral offence to say she did nothing wrong. Now we know that no prosecution is an absolute certainty.

But some just won't let it go